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 eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 05 Aug 24 10.03am |
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Trialist 'B' is about to join the 'Cobblers' on a season long loan . . . [Link]
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
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taylors lovechild  05 Aug 24 10.32am |
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He looks a real talent so hopefully he makes the most of the opportunity.
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Pete53  Hassocks 05 Aug 24 11.34am |
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I can see the supposed benefits of such a loan but I can't get excited about it. Am I alone in thinking that this will be the end of his senior level hopes with Palace? It's just that we have loaned out a sizeable number of Academy players to EFL clubs in the past few seasons and the only one to really make a mark was Rak-Sakyi, and there is still a question mark over his future.
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| Stirlingsays 05 Aug 24 11.54am |
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Originally posted by Pete53
I can see the supposed benefits of such a loan but I can't get excited about it. Am I alone in thinking that this will be the end of his senior level hopes with Palace? It's just that we have loaned out a sizeable number of Academy players to EFL clubs in the past few seasons and the only one to really make a mark was Rak-Sakyi, and there is still a question mark over his future. I think the Academy is mainly seen as a means of making enough money from selling the occasional success story who proves themselves....usually at lower levels, so that it can justify itself. We sell the occasional player...Banks was sold for example, but on face value the Academy is a loss maker. However, in truth the opposite is probably true as situations where it produces a Zaha and notable others might be much rarer. However, they are worth tens of millions for the club and have been vital. My own personal view is that Rak-Sakyi is going to have a good career in football it's only a question of what his ceiling is. We have a good academy and I think several other players are going to make it in football.....For example, Justin Devenny is another I think will make it....Whitworth as another and we have a couple of promising forwards. But with Sakyi by buying Sarr the decision has obviously been made that he's going on loan or to be sold. I think consistency is the big factor in young players as is their physical strength and those factors often decide on how close to the first team they get early on. Stand outs aren't hard to spot....for the obvious reason they stand out. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Aug 2024 12.00pm)
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| eritheagle Erith 05 Aug 24 12.00pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I think the Academy is mainly seen as a means of making enough money from selling the occasional success story who proves themselves....usually at lower levels, so that it can justify itself. We sell the occasional player...Banks was sold for example, but on face value the Academy is a loss maker. However, in truth the opposite is probably true as situations where it produces a Zaha and notable others might be much rarer. However, they are worth tens of millions for the club and have been vital. My own personal view is that Rak-Sakyi is going to have a good career in football it's only a question of what his ceiling is. We have a good academy and I think several other players are going to make it in football.....For example, Justin Devenny is another I think will make it. But with Sakyi by buying Sarr the decision has obviously been made that he's going on loan or to be sold. I think consistency is the big factor in young players as is their physical strength and those factors often decide on how close to the first team players. It's usually something that stands out quite early. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Aug 2024 11.57am) I think Scott Banks went on a free so didn't even make money there either!
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| eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 05 Aug 24 12.07pm |
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Originally posted by eritheagle
I think Scott Banks went on a free so didn't even make money there either! According to Transfermarkt, we bought him from Dundee Utd for £300k & then we sold him to St Pauli for £400k. So, a 25% profit
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| eritheagle Erith 05 Aug 24 12.22pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
According to Transfermarkt, we bought him from Dundee Utd for £300k & then we sold him to St Pauli for £400k. So, a 25% profit That's much better then. I think I saw it on SSN transfers bit on the right hand side of screen that he was listed as a freebie.
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| dreamwaverider London 05 Aug 24 12.32pm |
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With the system we have got now for buying in players, it makes a mockery of the academy financially. Olise alone £8m to £50m. And we have a good few more like him. However, we apparently have to have the academy as a premier requirement.
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| doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 05 Aug 24 1.04pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
According to Transfermarkt, we bought him from Dundee Utd for £300k & then we sold him to St Pauli for £400k. So, a 25% profit
Basaically, if we can loan our youngsters out to Championship clubs and they perform well then we will either have a saleable asset or a player for our 1st team. Ozoh is at Derby and Ebiowei (NOT an Academy product) at Oxford Utd. This is their opportunity to show what they can do.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 05 Aug 24 1.06pm |
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Originally posted by taylors lovechild
He looks a real talent so hopefully he makes the most of the opportunity. Boateng is the role model for players who may not hit PL level. Went on loan to deepest darkest Scotland lower leagues and performed well to earn an interest from a Scottish PL club. I hope he has a decent career.
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| Stirlingsays 05 Aug 24 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
With the system we have got now for buying in players, it makes a mockery of the academy financially. Olise alone £8m to £50m. And we have a good few more like him. However, we apparently have to have the academy as a premier requirement. A strong academy is a part of Palace's self image from the 'team of the eighties'. Parish and co will all remember and value that. I share that same bias, just how cost effective it is? I think that's something that could be argued. But personally without Zaha I don't think we would be where we are. There are also arguments about top clubs hovering up young talent and making it much harder for new clubs to go from minnow to big club and actually stay....Who was the last club to do that?....Wimbledon for a time....Swindon, Reading had moments in the sun...I won't include Blackburn or Fulham as that was all about big money...Leicester? Fairy tale season but they were used as a stepping stone. In fact it's probably us...who were never a small club....but we are probably the shining example of a mid Championship club that made it....is getting bigger and currently has a bright future...though we have to be aware of that stepping stone issue as well. Our club is run very very well.....Parish and co...Freedman, without them we would probably be playing Halifax. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Aug 2024 1.19pm)
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| eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 09 Aug 24 2.28pm |
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Looks like this loan move could be off, apparently they have signed someone called Tarique Fosu in that position.
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