....and by 'work' , we mean a real job.... with a nominated start & finish time. A boss directing you, paid money, and the chance to get fired if you mess up. And a genuine fear of getting fired. Your employer is not also your dad. Ideally taxpaying.

- Karl Marx, champion of the working-class. Never worked a day in his life. Too busy impregnating the cleaning lady while the wife was shopping at Fortnum & Masons.

- the NEETs of Thanet, Kent.

- Everybody's Great great great grandmother , from the pre-industrial age. Pregnant at 17, not much jobs for ladies who eventually have a dozen kids. Far too busy working to ever hold down a 'real job'. She is likely to have married some bloke significantly older than herself.

- any other women who today go straight from childhood to motherhood, and never pass employment go.

- George iv, the lazy fat Prince Regent who paid somebody else to build the Brighton Pavilion

Also included in the thread, people whose day job was so insignificant as to be almost forgotten. So both Julius Caesar and Stalin may be included because you could argue neither ever answered much to a boss in a job. But Hitler is excluded even though most of his youth was spent as an unemployed artist loser....cos in WWI the army accepted everybody- a paid job with a boss.

Also included : wherein the day-job is hardly a real job at all - more of a hobby. Therefore most professional footballers, artists, painters, musicians.

- So, Messi / Ronaldo

Never employed in a real job. Career-politicians.

- irish PM, Simon Harris

Queen Elizabeth II is not included because of her sterling work with vehicles in WWII, but QEI may be included as she spent much of her youth conjugating verbs in her various languages.

- Jon Venables, and any other scum who went direct from childhood into long-term prison.

- the Tasaday tribe of the Philippines. And all other Hunter-Gatherer types.

- Tyson Fury was tarmacking roads at age 11, but gets included here because a) it was a family business and b) if any eagle uploads his 1992 tax-return i will happily remove his name.

what others ?

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Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Third-choice goalkeepers.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Stalin.
Any prisoners who sent him a request for clemency or better living conditions used to get a deliberately harsher treatment. He was vindictive in the extreme.

However, one bloke got out of jail cos Stalin remembered that he had sent him a desktop paperweight in the shape of a tank, the guns acting as pencil-holders.

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And another fecker who never seems to have had a job.....Gavrilo Princep, the father of WWI. Rejected by the army recruiter in 1912 for looking too weedy and weak. Shamed, humiliated and smarting from the rejection. He went on to prove his fighting mettle by murdering unarmed aristocrats.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

I'll also add to this, which may be age-dependant in terms of relatability (and circumstances) - As a young lad growing up in Lewisham (I still like to think I'm quite 'young'), I seem to know a fair few that I knocked about with who never grew out of their Scarface fantasies so beyond selling a bit of skunk and hanging around on the streets, have had f-all else to generate income.

Would have been (kindly) referred to as 'NEETs' elsewhere but most will be at least in their 30s now. Most ended up in prison which was probably as good as life will get for them but equally probably ended any chance of gainful employment.

It's certainly worthy of scorn but perhaps more so, incredibly sad/tragic.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Although having just watched the highlights of Celtic’s friendly v Man City, Kasper Schmeichel was kept busy by City…….normal service will be resumed though soon when they’re back to playing Ross County and St Johnstone etc