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HKOwen Hong Kong 05 Jul 24 7.15am
Election is over, maybe time for a new thread. Let's see what happens in first week and month. First thing, new cabinet. Good to see Ashworth and Debonnaire have gone. Ashworth lost to a pro Palestine candidate. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 05 Jul 24 7.15am

Election is over, maybe time for a new thread.

Let's see what happens in first week and month.

First thing, new cabinet.

Good to see Ashworth and Debonnaire have gone.

Ashworth lost to a pro Palestine candidate.

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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cryrst The garden of England 05 Jul 24 7.45am
No borrowing so where is the money coming from ? Reeves looks worried already and she’s been chancellor for 3 hours. Suck it up labour as I think matov is correct. The tories threw it and the reason will be seen very soon I reckon. Indirect tax for all of us so this 2 k will be a thing !
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The garden of England 05 Jul 24 7.45am

No borrowing so where is the money coming from ?
Reeves looks worried already and she’s been chancellor for 3 hours.
Suck it up labour as I think matov is correct. The tories threw it and the reason will be seen very soon I reckon.
Indirect tax for all of us so this 2 k will be a thing !

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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 05 Jul 24 8.00am
Originally posted by cryrst No borrowing so where is the money coming from ? Reeves looks worried already and she’s been chancellor for 3 hours. Suck it up labour as I think matov is correct. The tories threw it and the reason will be seen very soon I reckon. Indirect tax for all of us so this 2 k will be a thing ! Well, that is one hell of a majority; effectively Labour can now do whatever they want. The question is whether they do what the electorate wants. As an aside I was sorry to see Penny Moudant lose. I thought she did an excellent job at the King’s Coronation and at very short notice. Not sure who on the Labour side could have done such an excellent job of it. hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.
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Originally posted by cryrst

Well, that is one hell of a majority; effectively Labour can now do whatever they want. The question is whether they do what the electorate wants.
As an aside I was sorry to see Penny Moudant lose. I thought she did an excellent job at the King’s Coronation and at very short notice. Not sure who on the Labour side could have done such an excellent job of it.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 05 Jul 24 8.02am
In the early days it will be the easily measured promises that can be tested. It's a given that any incoming govt will blame it's woes on the outgoing govt but that only lasts a while. I can't see a day one legislation to somehow classify people smugglings gangs as terrorists or whatever it is will have any effect. France has no reason to accept returnees or allow British forces to operate with impunity on their soil. The number of boat arrivals can be measured year vs year. The number of asylum applications " processed " can be measured The number of successful asylum applications can be measured. NHS waiting lists and other service levels can be measured. There are many other things but these two issues are front and centre for most people. Inflation is at the behest of the BoE as are interest rates. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 05 Jul 24 8.02am

In the early days it will be the easily measured promises that can be tested.

It's a given that any incoming govt will blame it's woes on the outgoing govt but that only lasts a while.

I can't see a day one legislation to somehow classify people smugglings gangs as terrorists or whatever it is will have any effect.

France has no reason to accept returnees or allow British forces to operate with impunity on their soil.

The number of boat arrivals can be measured year vs year.

The number of asylum applications " processed " can be measured

The number of successful asylum applications can be measured.

NHS waiting lists and other service levels can be measured.

There are many other things but these two issues are front and centre for most people.

Inflation is at the behest of the BoE as are interest rates.

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 05 Jul 24 8.33am
Originally posted by HKOwen Election is over, maybe time for a new thread. Let's see what happens in first week and month. First thing, new cabinet. Good to see Ashworth and Debonnaire have gone. Ashworth lost to a pro Palestine candidate. Good idea HKO. It'll be very interesting to see how this new government works with such a low percentage of the country's vote. Plenty of scope for factions of opposition breaking out internally. The only bright note, as you pointed out, is that little weasel Ashworth lost. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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Originally posted by HKOwen

Election is over, maybe time for a new thread.

Let's see what happens in first week and month.

First thing, new cabinet.

Good to see Ashworth and Debonnaire have gone.

Ashworth lost to a pro Palestine candidate.

Good idea HKO. It'll be very interesting to see how this new government works with such a low percentage of the country's vote. Plenty of scope for factions of opposition breaking out internally.

The only bright note, as you pointed out, is that little weasel Ashworth lost.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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Badger11 Beckenham 05 Jul 24 8.53am
The country is in a complete shambles. I blame the government. One more point
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Beckenham 05 Jul 24 8.53am

The country is in a complete shambles. I blame the government.

One more point

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becky over the moon 05 Jul 24 8.54am
Originally posted by HKOwen In the early days it will be the easily measured promises that can be tested. It's a given that any incoming govt will blame it's woes on the outgoing govt but that only lasts a while. I can't see a day one legislation to somehow classify people smugglings gangs as terrorists or whatever it is will have any effect. France has no reason to accept returnees or allow British forces to operate with impunity on their soil. The number of boat arrivals can be measured year vs year. The number of asylum applications " processed " can be measured The number of successful asylum applications can be measured. NHS waiting lists and other service levels can be measured. There are many other things but these two issues are front and centre for most people. Inflation is at the behest of the BoE as are interest rates. There can't be any legislation on day 1 - Sir Keir will now have to fly up to Scotland so that His Majesty the King can invite him to form a government - until that happens, nothing else can. A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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over the moon 05 Jul 24 8.54am

Originally posted by HKOwen

In the early days it will be the easily measured promises that can be tested.

It's a given that any incoming govt will blame it's woes on the outgoing govt but that only lasts a while.

I can't see a day one legislation to somehow classify people smugglings gangs as terrorists or whatever it is will have any effect.

France has no reason to accept returnees or allow British forces to operate with impunity on their soil.

The number of boat arrivals can be measured year vs year.

The number of asylum applications " processed " can be measured

The number of successful asylum applications can be measured.

NHS waiting lists and other service levels can be measured.

There are many other things but these two issues are front and centre for most people.

Inflation is at the behest of the BoE as are interest rates.

There can't be any legislation on day 1 - Sir Keir will now have to fly up to Scotland so that His Majesty the King can invite him to form a government - until that happens, nothing else can.

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

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The Dolphin 05 Jul 24 9.10am
From a personal point of view I hope that they don't change any tax rules for a couple of months or so! I wonder whether the media will scrutinize and hold Labour to the same account as they did the Tories. They will get a free run for a short while of course but they are going to have to tell us their intentions pretty quickly and I am fairly sure that we are not going to like a lot of what they propose! I will be keeping an eye on the BBC rhetoric for sure - just to make sure that they remain as impartial as always
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05 Jul 24 9.10am

From a personal point of view I hope that they don't change any tax rules for a couple of months or so!
I wonder whether the media will scrutinize and hold Labour to the same account as they did the Tories.
They will get a free run for a short while of course but they are going to have to tell us their intentions pretty quickly and I am fairly sure that we are not going to like a lot of what they propose!
I will be keeping an eye on the BBC rhetoric for sure - just to make sure that they remain as impartial as always

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HKOwen Hong Kong 05 Jul 24 9.19am
Originally posted by becky There can't be any legislation on day 1 - Sir Keir will now have to fly up to Scotland so that His Majesty the King can invite him to form a government - until that happens, nothing else can. Starmer used the phrase, I think he meant first day Parliament sits Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 05 Jul 24 9.19am

Originally posted by becky

There can't be any legislation on day 1 - Sir Keir will now have to fly up to Scotland so that His Majesty the King can invite him to form a government - until that happens, nothing else can.

Starmer used the phrase, I think he meant first day Parliament sits

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Badger11 Beckenham 05 Jul 24 9.35am
Originally posted by The Dolphin From a personal point of view I hope that they don't change any tax rules for a couple of months or so! I wonder whether the media will scrutinize and hold Labour to the same account as they did the Tories. They will get a free run for a short while of course but they are going to have to tell us their intentions pretty quickly and I am fairly sure that we are not going to like a lot of what they propose! I will be keeping an eye on the BBC rhetoric for sure - just to make sure that they remain as impartial as always Yup looking forward to plenty of expose's and anti government articles. One more point
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Beckenham 05 Jul 24 9.35am

Originally posted by The Dolphin

From a personal point of view I hope that they don't change any tax rules for a couple of months or so!
I wonder whether the media will scrutinize and hold Labour to the same account as they did the Tories.
They will get a free run for a short while of course but they are going to have to tell us their intentions pretty quickly and I am fairly sure that we are not going to like a lot of what they propose!
I will be keeping an eye on the BBC rhetoric for sure - just to make sure that they remain as impartial as always

Yup looking forward to plenty of expose's and anti government articles.

One more point

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silvertop Portishead 05 Jul 24 10.21am
Originally posted by HKOwen Election is over, maybe time for a new thread. Let's see what happens in first week and month. First thing, new cabinet. Good to see Ashworth and Debonnaire have gone. Ashworth lost to a pro Palestine candidate. It is only good if they are replaced by who you are aligned to, no?
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silvertop

Portishead 05 Jul 24 10.21am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Election is over, maybe time for a new thread.

Let's see what happens in first week and month.

First thing, new cabinet.

Good to see Ashworth and Debonnaire have gone.

Ashworth lost to a pro Palestine candidate.

It is only good if they are replaced by who you are aligned to, no?

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silvertop Portishead 05 Jul 24 10.25am
Originally posted by cryrst No borrowing so where is the money coming from ? Reeves looks worried already and she’s been chancellor for 3 hours. Suck it up labour as I think matov is correct. The tories threw it and the reason will be seen very soon I reckon. Indirect tax for all of us so this 2 k will be a thing ! No. They. Didn't. It was a perfect storm of an SNP collapse, the rise of Reform, poor election timing and campaign, and years of incompetent governance on a scale not seen since...???
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Portishead 05 Jul 24 10.25am

Originally posted by cryrst

No borrowing so where is the money coming from ?
Reeves looks worried already and she’s been chancellor for 3 hours.
Suck it up labour as I think matov is correct. The tories threw it and the reason will be seen very soon I reckon.
Indirect tax for all of us so this 2 k will be a thing !

No.
They.
Didn't.

It was a perfect storm of an SNP collapse, the rise of Reform, poor election timing and campaign, and years of incompetent governance on a scale not seen since...???

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