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View pax3908's Profile pax3908 Flag 27 Jun 24 10.03pm Send a Private Message to pax3908 Add pax3908 as a friend

I have to say despondency is setting in for me,it looks like we will be losing our true superstars plus one or to other worthies,after peaking at the end of last season what are we going to come back to? In all seriousness is it even worth buying a season ticket,when we look like having our arm twisted into accepting offers for guys l thought we didn't have to sell,
I just hope that some of this click baiting can be fought off,and we manage to hang on to some of the good guys,and definitely the manager,it will not be a happy ship if we go back to where we started last season.Mr Parish you have to make sure that isn't the case,l don't want a wondefull new stand,and a debt free club going down to the championship!!!

 

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View Eaglehamster's Profile Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 27 Jun 24 10.12pm Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

Originally posted by pax3908

I have to say despondency is setting in for me,it looks like we will be losing our true superstars plus one or to other worthies,after peaking at the end of last season what are we going to come back to? In all seriousness is it even worth buying a season ticket,when we look like having our arm twisted into accepting offers for guys l thought we didn't have to sell,
I just hope that some of this click baiting can be fought off,and we manage to hang on to some of the good guys,and definitely the manager,it will not be a happy ship if we go back to where we started last season.Mr Parish you have to make sure that isn't the case,l don't want a wondefull new stand,and a debt free club going down to the championship!!!

I agree. It sucks. I guess the clubs we got them from feel the same way about us. Law of the jungle.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 27 Jun 24 10.14pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

This is the way the cookie will crumble, I'm afraid. We don't have the financial power to come anywhere close to paying our better players what they can potentially earn elsewhere. The fact is that NOT having done so well under OG might have been better in terms of keeping the squad together for next season.

 


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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 27 Jun 24 10.34pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Olise is the only one with a release clause right?
So the ball is in our court.
Therefore, Eze £80m. Guehi £76m.
Bank that alongside Olise and we are north of £200m.
With Dougie and Glasner we can really go to work on securing some special young talent.
It's where we are at.

 

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View The groover's Profile The groover Flag Danbury 27 Jun 24 10.44pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

If someone has a release clause and wants to go there is little we can do.

If someone wants to go we should try to keep them but if they still want to go then we move on.

Its their job. They want to be at the highest level they can get too.

If I was head hunted and offered more opportunity then I would go. Just as I have done. Twice.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 27 Jun 24 11.25pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Beyond Real Madrid and possibly Man City, I can't think of any club that would not qualify as a 'selling club' in that if one of the aforementioned comes along, there's very little a club can sometimes do. PSG won't ever have the same attraction, playing in Ligue 1 and no CL and Barca lack the finance as do the German and Italian clubs. Liverpool, Man United, Arsenal, Chelsea and perhaps Newcastle don't quite have the combination of finance/prestige to demand the same pull.

Therefore, unless you are considered to be the biggest club in world football, or the new(ish) challenger to the crown, every other club is essentially loomed over.

I imagined that being a 'selling club' was incorporated into our new 'philosophy'? It's almost inevitable. Also many on here used to look resentfully and enviously at the model the likes of the weed were employing, we are now doing similar.

We somehow or for very particular reasons kept hold of Wilf but look at even the likes of Villa and Grealish. The moment we have a player performing well for us, the poachers will take notice. Therefore, so long as we keep buying them young(ish) and cheap(ish), we can sustain the club, perhaps even make some dosh and achieve some success without collapsing as a result of a few outgoings.

S'ton within a short period of time had some real players (Bale, Walcott, VVD, Mane, Shaw, Alex O-C etc.) but didn't manage that well. Perhaps we've taken some lessons there. A number of flops will also be involved but occasionally we will unearth gems and if they go, it will be off the back of us gaining from them being here.

Under a manager like Glasner, and the recruitment team who brought us the likes of Olise, Guehi, Eze, Wharton, Doucoure, Munoz etc., we may well be on the incline whilst successfully navigating the inevitable. It's certainly preferable for me than years past.

COYP

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 28 Jun 24 6.19am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

If someone has a release clause and wants to go there is little we can do.

If someone wants to go we should try to keep them but if they still want to go then we move on.

Rumour has it that Michael Olise was happy to stay for another year but the German club came in with an offer that he just couldn't turn down - Champions League plus a doubling of his wages

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 28 Jun 24 8.20am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

When Olise was fit last season he was operating at a different level and sadly it was inevitable a top club would poach him. I am at least pleased he is going to a genuinely top club. I'd be far more upset if we sold one of our stars to a Spurs or a Newcastle.

As it stands, we seemingly already have a potential star in Kamada signed up to step in and Riyad ready to come in and push for a place in the back three. If we were to sign one or two of the exciting players we're linked with then I see no reason not to be optimistic, especially when you consider Doucoure and Franca should hopefully be fit again. Last summer we had a strong first XI but a weak squad. Our squad is already stronger this summer and selling Olise may in the long run help the club to improve the team as a whole, even if it loses that individual brilliance.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 28 Jun 24 8.22am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

If you are a club that inserts release clauses into your players’ contracts you are an actively selling club.
Think of a shop window with a price on a piece of merchandise.
If you want the merchandise ,and can afford it, you go and purchase it.

The argument in favour of the clauses is that the club can protect it’s investment and incentivise the better players to sign up with us through these clauses, with the players knowing we won’t stand in their way.

I can understand this argument to a degree, but for me it’s more like a case of the cart driving the horse.
The players pick and choose their clubs at times that suit them and the clubs that supposedly manage them forego their right to control their resources.
Five year contracts , with release clauses, become largely redundant.

If this seems an exaggeration does anybody seriously believe that Palace want to lose Olise this summer (with perhaps more to follow)?

 

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View MrRobbo's Profile MrRobbo Flag Purley 28 Jun 24 9.01am Send a Private Message to MrRobbo Add MrRobbo as a friend

I hate this notion that there are 'selling clubs'. Every club on the planet bar about 5 are 'selling clubs'

And the OPs insinuation that it was pointless getting a season ticket etc.

We've signed some good young players, who have got better and have ambitions about our level. Nothing wrong with that. Its part of the process, and if anything makes us a better prospect to exciting young talent. DF can point to Olise as an example of the progress you can achieve with Palace.

Trap these guys in, and the story loses its ending.

Be happy that we've got to enjoy their talent, and look forward to the exciting new players that we are signing.

 

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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 28 Jun 24 9.01am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

It is very frustrating but it will always be the case until we are strong enough and good enough to ward off predators.
We need to find this talent for another few years, by which time we should be able to push back.
In the interim we will build a new stand and have more income from the extra fans and hospitality in the ground.
As long as we don't do a Southampton and sell the family silver every season then it is sort of acceptable.

 

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View orpingtoneagle's Profile orpingtoneagle Flag Orpington 28 Jun 24 9.41am Send a Private Message to orpingtoneagle Add orpingtoneagle as a friend

What makes you think we are no longer a selling club?

We are now a mid range Premier League side. We have never won a major trophy or qualified for Europe.

As such we will see out players picked off by bigger clubs and good luck to them.

Where we have to get cute is to identify those next generation players, but them at the right time and sell them at the right time for a profit.

We have done that recently so hope we can continue to do so.

 

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