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Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 16 Jun 24 9.56am Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

I have never been to a music Festival so my opinions are without any experience to back me up, but I note a worrying trend recently. Barclays Bank has been forced to pull out of sponsoring several music festivals, and Baille Gifford had to withdraw from the prestigious Hay Book Festival, due to spurious links to the Gaza/Israel war. As far as I can tell it's because the companies had small exposure to clients who placed money in these areas of investment. As a consequence, artists withdrew their support for the festivals forcing the organisers to ask Barclays etc to do the same.
That is their right to do so but I would have thought that the organisers didn't think it was a problem, and neither did the artists until they were made aware of the issue because of social media.
My issue is where is the sponsorship money going to come from in future? Artists will withdraw their support because a sponsor has links to the meat trade, so vegans and animal rights groups will prevent that, Links to the oil industry? Donors to the Conservative Party? Links to the motor manufacturers? Links to women's groups (that have an opinion on trans rights)?
I can see music festivals ceasing to exist if every mob has an objection to someone...and that would be a shame.

 


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Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 16 Jun 24 10.28am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

I have never been to a music Festival so my opinions are without any experience to back me up, but I note a worrying trend recently. Barclays Bank has been forced to pull out of sponsoring several music festivals, and Baille Gifford had to withdraw from the prestigious Hay Book Festival, due to spurious links to the Gaza/Israel war. As far as I can tell it's because the companies had small exposure to clients who placed money in these areas of investment. As a consequence, artists withdrew their support for the festivals forcing the organisers to ask Barclays etc to do the same.
That is their right to do so but I would have thought that the organisers didn't think it was a problem, and neither did the artists until they were made aware of the issue because of social media.
My issue is where is the sponsorship money going to come from in future?
Artists will withdraw their support because a sponsor has links to the meat trade, so vegans and animal rights groups will prevent that, Links to the oil industry? Donors to the Conservative Party? Links to the motor manufacturers? Links to women's groups (that have an opinion on trans rights)?
I can see music festivals ceasing to exist if every mob has an objection to someone...and that would be a shame.

There's a relatively unknown and slightly dubious Vietnamese online gambling company, NET88 I think they're called, very keen to throw in a bob or two to help raise their profile.

One of the first events I went to was the Windsor Jazz and Blues Festival in 1967, headlined by, among others, The Move, Small Faces and Donovan. A great time was had by all.

 


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Matov Flag 16 Jun 24 10.29am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

If there is a real financial impact, I suspect many 'artists' would soon find their moral compasses wavering.

One of the things I have realised as I have grown older is how the notion of people doing things for the love of them, rather than the financial reward, has a genuine beauty to it.

And the entire, almost industrialisation, of 'festivals' is a trend that perhaps could do with taking down a peg or two.

I saw a claim that the impact of somebody like Taylor Swift touring has a very real impact on an economy. Not just in a local way but on a far, far wider scale given the money spent on people dressing up for the concerts etc. Seems to border on a cult (and I say that with somebody who has loved ones who have bought into it).

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 16 Jun 24 10.39am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

If there is a real financial impact, I suspect many 'artists' would soon find their moral compasses wavering.

One of the things I have realised as I have grown older is how the notion of people doing things for the love of them, rather than the financial reward, has a genuine beauty to it.

And the entire, almost industrialisation, of 'festivals' is a trend that perhaps could do with taking down a peg or two.

I saw a claim that the impact of somebody like Taylor Swift touring has a very real impact on an economy. Not just in a local way but on a far, far wider scale given the money spent on people dressing up for the concerts etc. Seems to border on a cult (and I say that with somebody who has loved ones who have bought into it).

I'm not a festival goer either but I suspect that many people of my age bemoan the corporatising and so would be quite pleased if it got back to it's more humble roots.*

*Yes I know festivals are for the youngsters but they won't remember the days when it wasn't corporate. They need grandad to tell them about the good ol days

Edited by Badger11 (16 Jun 2024 10.41am)

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jun 24 11.04am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I'm not a festival goer either but I suspect that many people of my age bemoan the corporatising and so would be quite pleased if it got back to it's more humble roots.*

*Yes I know festivals are for the youngsters but they won't remember the days when it wasn't corporate. They need grandad to tell them about the good ol days

Edited by Badger11 (16 Jun 2024 10.41am)

I went to the old festivals before all the banning happened and in general they were miles better. Although the first Electric Picnics in Ireland were nice and had that original vibe. Not now, all glamping and rich pricks with sky high prices - but still the over flowing toilets. Not much good music now either.
I went to one with both Kraftwerk and Human League. Good times.

 


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YT Flag Oxford 16 Jun 24 3.04pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I went to the old festivals before all the banning happened and in general they were miles better. Although the first Electric Picnics in Ireland were nice and had that original vibe. Not now, all glamping and rich pricks with sky high prices - but still the over flowing toilets. Not much good music now either.
I went to one with both Kraftwerk and Human League. Good times.

God, I hope they didn't play their full repertoire. You'd still be there now!!

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 16 Jun 24 3.41pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


Ticket pricing has gone crazy due to Ticketmaster and their "dynamic pricing" algorithm which is charging hundreds more for already expensive shows (gigs? Concerts? Whatever they're called).

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jun 24 3.52pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by YT

God, I hope they didn't play their full repertoire. You'd still be there now!!

 


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