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MrRobbo Chaldon 08 Apr 24 3.25pm
Everton deducted two points for breaching Premier League Profitability and Sustainability Rules for second time
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Chaldon 08 Apr 24 3.25pm

Everton deducted two points for breaching Premier League Profitability and Sustainability Rules for second time

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silvertop Portishead 08 Apr 24 3.36pm
Damn, not enough. They will survive and may finish above us.
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Portishead 08 Apr 24 3.36pm

Damn, not enough.

They will survive and may finish above us.

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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 08 Apr 24 3.37pm
Please stop deducting Everton points, I’m sick of whinging scousers on the radio and TV
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Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 08 Apr 24 3.37pm

Please stop deducting Everton points, I’m sick of whinging scousers on the radio and TV

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ambrose7 Croydon 08 Apr 24 3.53pm
Originally posted by silvertop Damn, not enough. They will survive and may finish above us. Yep, they'll survive. 2 points clear with Brentford, Forest and Sheffield United at home, plus Luton and Chelsea away for bonus points. Would expect Liverpool and Arsenal to beat them. I'd be really surprised if Everton don't finish above us now. 26th January 2010 - Enter Administration 2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough 1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds 7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.
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Croydon 08 Apr 24 3.53pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Damn, not enough.

They will survive and may finish above us.

Yep, they'll survive. 2 points clear with Brentford, Forest and Sheffield United at home, plus Luton and Chelsea away for bonus points. Would expect Liverpool and Arsenal to beat them.

I'd be really surprised if Everton don't finish above us now.

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fish mitten Chelmsford 08 Apr 24 4.31pm
Really doesn't seem much of a deterrent does it? 6 points first overspend and then 2 every year after? Must have set a precedent. Once you've overspent the first season you may as well carry on doing so, as 2 point deduction is unlikely to hit anyone. If they want it to work it should have been double the punishment at least. May as well just scrap FFP. Personally, I don't agree with it, as its just a scheme for the big clubs to keep the status quo.
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Chelmsford 08 Apr 24 4.31pm

Really doesn't seem much of a deterrent does it?

6 points first overspend and then 2 every year after? Must have set a precedent.

Once you've overspent the first season you may as well carry on doing so, as 2 point deduction is unlikely to hit anyone.

If they want it to work it should have been double the punishment at least.

May as well just scrap FFP. Personally, I don't agree with it, as its just a scheme for the big clubs to keep the status quo.

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silvertop Portishead 08 Apr 24 4.36pm
Originally posted by fish mitten Really doesn't seem much of a deterrent does it? 6 points first overspend and then 2 every year after? Must have set a precedent. Once you've overspent the first season you may as well carry on doing so, as 2 point deduction is unlikely to hit anyone. If they want it to work it should have been double the punishment at least. May as well just scrap FFP. Personally, I don't agree with it, as its just a scheme for the big clubs to keep the status quo. Why not, but Everton were not deducted points under this regime. Agree your view that, in natural justice, penalties should rise with repeat offences, not fall to some "standard" rate. That said, I don't know the facts. There may have been evidence of Everton demonstrating a better understanding, doing more to mitigate, a clear pattern of better behaviour, a lesser infringement etc. I have no idea?
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Portishead 08 Apr 24 4.36pm

Originally posted by fish mitten

Really doesn't seem much of a deterrent does it?

6 points first overspend and then 2 every year after? Must have set a precedent.

Once you've overspent the first season you may as well carry on doing so, as 2 point deduction is unlikely to hit anyone.

If they want it to work it should have been double the punishment at least.

May as well just scrap FFP. Personally, I don't agree with it, as its just a scheme for the big clubs to keep the status quo.

Why not, but Everton were not deducted points under this regime.

Agree your view that, in natural justice, penalties should rise with repeat offences, not fall to some "standard" rate.

That said, I don't know the facts. There may have been evidence of Everton demonstrating a better understanding, doing more to mitigate, a clear pattern of better behaviour, a lesser infringement etc. I have no idea?

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est1905 08 Apr 24 4.46pm
Originally posted by silvertop Damn, not enough. They will survive and may finish above us. Have you seen their form and fixtures. Saturday was their first win in 14 games. The last win being against Burnley. They have Chelsea A, Forest H, Liverpool A in their next 3 games. They'll maybe get 1 point out of that. Then its Brentford H, Luton A (which if they lose they are in massive trouble), Sheffield U H and finally Arsenal A. I can only realistically see Everton getting 7 points out of that lot and I'm being generous. That would give them just 34 points. Its between them and Luton who will go now in my opinion. Dyche has used the tub thumping rousing inspirational speaches once. They dont work a second time. Ask Ian Dowie.
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08 Apr 24 4.46pm

Originally posted by silvertop

Damn, not enough.

They will survive and may finish above us.

Have you seen their form and fixtures. Saturday was their first win in 14 games.
The last win being against Burnley.
They have Chelsea A, Forest H, Liverpool A in their next 3 games. They'll maybe get 1 point out of that.
Then its Brentford H, Luton A (which if they lose they are in massive trouble), Sheffield U H and finally Arsenal A.
I can only realistically see Everton getting 7 points out of that lot and I'm being generous. That would give them just 34 points.
Its between them and Luton who will go now in my opinion.
Dyche has used the tub thumping rousing inspirational speaches once. They dont work a second time. Ask Ian Dowie.

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dreamwaverider London 08 Apr 24 4.47pm
Just unleash the cash cow and let's see who the big dogs really are. Newcastle will just run away with it. First billion pound player here we come. Drop in the ocean for the Saudi PIF.
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Just unleash the cash cow and let's see who the big dogs really are. Newcastle will just run away with it. First billion pound player here we come. Drop in the ocean for the Saudi PIF.

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Midlands Eagle 08 Apr 24 4.53pm
Originally posted by MrRobbo Everton deducted two points for breaching Premier League Profitability and Sustainability Rules for second time Why is it called that anyway as it has nothing to do with sustainability. If the day ever comes that clubs like those owned by oil rich states find their funding unsustainable we will have much worse things to worry about
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Originally posted by MrRobbo

Everton deducted two points for breaching Premier League Profitability and Sustainability Rules for second time

Why is it called that anyway as it has nothing to do with sustainability. If the day ever comes that clubs like those owned by oil rich states find their funding unsustainable we will have much worse things to worry about

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rikz Croydon 08 Apr 24 5.54pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Why is it called that anyway as it has nothing to do with sustainability. If the day ever comes that clubs like those owned by oil rich states find their funding unsustainable we will have much worse things to worry about That's the whole point of it, it's to stop rich owners walking away and leaving the club in a mess, someone's personal wealth has nothing to do with the clubs. Plenty of rich people have companies go under.
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Croydon 08 Apr 24 5.54pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

That's the whole point of it, it's to stop rich owners walking away and leaving the club in a mess, someone's personal wealth has nothing to do with the clubs. Plenty of rich people have companies go under.

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ambrose7 Croydon 08 Apr 24 6.19pm
Originally posted by est1905 Have you seen their form and fixtures. Saturday was their first win in 14 games. The last win being against Burnley. They have Chelsea A, Forest H, Liverpool A in their next 3 games. They'll maybe get 1 point out of that. Then its Brentford H, Luton A (which if they lose they are in massive trouble), Sheffield U H and finally Arsenal A. I can only realistically see Everton getting 7 points out of that lot and I'm being generous. That would give them just 34 points. Its between them and Luton who will go now in my opinion. Dyche has used the tub thumping rousing inspirational speaches once. They dont work a second time. Ask Ian Dowie. Quick reminder that after that run of 14 games, Everton face the only 3 sides Palace have beaten SINCE SEPTEMBER and all at home. After the first game they are 1/1. It doesn't matter a jot that they have to play Arsenal and Liverpool. They have 2 more golden chances to win that don't include Forest at home where they will also be favourites. Meanwhile, we don't have a single fixture left that we are favourites for. Surely anyone would swap our fixtures for theirs in a heartbeat? 26th January 2010 - Enter Administration 2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough 1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds 7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.
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Croydon 08 Apr 24 6.19pm

Originally posted by est1905

Quick reminder that after that run of 14 games, Everton face the only 3 sides Palace have beaten SINCE SEPTEMBER and all at home. After the first game they are 1/1.

It doesn't matter a jot that they have to play Arsenal and Liverpool. They have 2 more golden chances to win that don't include Forest at home where they will also be favourites. Meanwhile, we don't have a single fixture left that we are favourites for. Surely anyone would swap our fixtures for theirs in a heartbeat?

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PalazioVecchio south pole 08 Apr 24 6.49pm
this morning : Everton could have pipped us, in the table, with a simple Draw. that has now become them needing a win. Everybody knows that wins are not easy to come by. A 0-0 wont be enough. Personally, i think Brentford will get above us. But 3 other teams will not all get above us. Feeling Glad all Over. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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