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 beak  croydon 16 Feb 24 1.02pm |
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[Link] The West must respond by doubling Ukranian aid and allowing the Ukraine to attack military targets in Russia.
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dreamwaverider  London 16 Feb 24 1.04pm |
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Originally posted by beak
[Link] The West must respond by doubling Ukranian aid and allowing the Ukraine to attack military targets in Russia. You must be young.
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| beak croydon 16 Feb 24 1.15pm |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
You must be young. I know that A line must be drawn and this is the time.I'm younger than you but the vast majority of people are. Edited by beak (16 Feb 2024 1.16pm)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 16 Feb 24 1.19pm |
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I'm surprised he lasted this long. A brave man for sure.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Feb 24 1.20pm |
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Of course, Putin had nothing to do with this, that must be obvious to every fair-minded person. Putin is a strong, but trustworthy, leader who we are foolish not to do deals with. Deals he would always respect and honour and never take them as a sign of weakness to be exploited. Putin doesn't fear opponents. He just kills them.
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| Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 16 Feb 24 2.09pm |
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Yep, I've just seen this. Shocking. The man stood up for his beliefs and paid the ultimate price. You're right Hrolf, he was a very brave man. Similar theme, I watched a film last night - ICON, based on a Frederick Forsyth book. An oligarch aiming to become President of Russia. Scarily reminiscent of what's going on with Putin.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 16 Feb 24 2.21pm |
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Prisons are dangerous places. Ask Max Clifford, John McAfee and Jeffrey Epstein
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| Stirlingsays 16 Feb 24 2.34pm |
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There should be questions raised about this and I agree with the criticisms of the Putin regime in regards to political opponents...just as I do with Ukraine. No one gave a feck about Gonzalo Lira dying in Ukrainian captivity did they..
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| snytaxx London 16 Feb 24 4.04pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
There should be questions raised about this and I agree with the criticisms of the Putin regime in regards to political opponents...just as I do with Ukraine. No one gave a feck about Gonzalo Lira dying in Ukrainian captivity did they.. Yet you continuously spread pro russian propaganda points with little to no scrutiny? Regarding Mr. Lira, nor should they as they are false equivalents. The man was a criminal antisemitic grifter beautified by the pro russian's as a 'journalist'. While any form of state violence would be reprehensible, a 55 year old chain smoker dying of pneumonia doesnt quite have the same level of smoking gun foul play vs a man getting nerve gassed on a plane.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Feb 24 7.35pm |
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Originally posted by snytaxx
Yet you continuously spread pro russian propaganda points with little to no scrutiny? Regarding Mr. Lira, nor should they as they are false equivalents. The man was a criminal antisemitic grifter beautified by the pro russian's as a 'journalist'. While any form of state violence would be reprehensible, a 55 year old chain smoker dying of pneumonia doesnt quite have the same level of smoking gun foul play vs a man getting nerve gassed on a plane. Normally I ignore you but as this is about someone's death so here I won't let you put out this statement without reply. You come on here and present claims from Ukraine as facts and then smear someone who died in Ukrainian captivity because you didn't like their personality. Sorry but you don't get to present claims as facts. He was a journalist and the how and the why and circumstances of why he died is....as with this Russian...purely reliant upon information coming from the authority responsible for his safety. There is an obvious conflict of interest with both of them and questions and criticisms in both circumstances are valid. You however are.......Well, I'll let others judge. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Feb 2024 7.38pm)
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 16 Feb 24 7.49pm |
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what some would call brave, i would call Foolhardy. Vlad Putin has a long history of his political opponents accidentally cutting their heads off while shaving. duh !
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| Matov 16 Feb 24 8.36pm |
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Originally posted by beak
[Link] The West must respond by doubling Ukranian aid and allowing the Ukraine to attack military targets in Russia. I know. Imagine the pressure being ramped up now. Putin must be insane to have the man killed.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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