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PatrickA London 06 Feb 24 6.26am | |
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Wouldn’t it just be a Palace thing to do to be relegated the very year it starts to build the new stand? In conclusion it is difficult to see a joined up approach or strategy to our approach this season and beyond.
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 06 Feb 24 7.46am | |
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I think the answer to your question is '' no ''. But I'll qualify that by saying that bad decisions have and are being made that contribute to the current position. In no particular order ; 1. Enabling Zaha to pontificate over the contract offered to him. Should have set a deadline which made it viable to find a replacement. 2. Appointing a manager that inherently doesn't trust young players - and then blow half of your limited budget on a teenager ( who wasn't fit and had no pre season ). 3. Henderson ! 4. The January window. No disrespect to Munoz and Wharton, both of whom I hope have a lot to offer. But I think Palace needed an experienced leader as I think we badly lack that on the field. 5. Management of injuries. Accepting that hamstring injuries are now prevalent in the game, who is calling the shots here ? Managers will always want to play their best players and we saw what happened at the Amex. But should the Medical Team even cleared Olise for 45 minutes ? I question that. 6. My pet hate. Being told what the club's ambitions / aims are when most can see, for a lot of the reasons above, that they are totally unrealistic. At the moment those Top Ten statements look embarrassing. New Stand - agree, I've no idea how the finances work for that. I thought the initial investment by Harris and Blitzer had been ring fenced for that. It should have no impact on how a transfer budget is spent. Freedman is Director of Football and as such should not have any involvement in stadium development. Succession Plan for the next manager ? - We don't know if one exists or not. I think our gut feeling here is that there isn't. As for Brighton / DeZerbi, they are taking the same approach as they do with players. Develop, sell and move on. They will have a plan in place for sure as they know DeZerbi will be highly sought after.
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Hrolf The Ganger 06 Feb 24 9.55am | |
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I love how suddenly everyone knows how to run the club better than Steve Parish. I don't presume to know the thought processes behind decisions. I merely have the right to agree or disagree with them based on face value. I think the warning signs were there for Olise's fragility way before this season, but you can't just find a deputy for a player like him, nor could we probably afford them. Certainly, I thought that we needed to boost the squad in certain obvious positions in the summer and was surprised when we ended up with a luxury untested youngster and another goalkeeper. Equally, I also thought that if there was any season that we would be comfortably safe from relegation, it would be this season. I'm guessing that the Chairman thought that too. Unfortunately, events have conspired against us this time and the last thing we need now is disharmony. Realistically, we have probably lost two games that we should have won this season. We have got two new quality players and must now find some grit to get through this difficult spell. Solidarity.
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georgey wood South London and Proud 06 Feb 24 9.59am | |
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Totally agree! All we can do is get behind Crystal Palace FC. All the rest is just white noise and has no impact. COYP.
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 06 Feb 24 10.07am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I love how suddenly everyone knows how to run the club better than Steve Parish. I don't presume to know the thought processes behind decisions. I merely have the right to agree or disagree with them based on face value. I think the warning signs were there for Olise's fragility way before this season, but you can't just find a deputy for a player like him, nor could we probably afford them. Certainly, I thought that we needed to boost the squad in certain obvious positions in the summer and was surprised when we ended up with a luxury untested youngster and another goalkeeper. Equally, I also thought that if there was any season that we would be comfortably safe from relegation, it would be this season. I'm guessing that the Chairman thought that too. Unfortunately, events have conspired against us this time and the last thing we need now is disharmony. Realistically, we have probably lost two games that we should have won this season. We have got two new quality players and must now find some grit to get through this difficult spell. Solidarity. Everybody makes mistakes. Parish is far better qualified than I am to run the club. But he's not infallible and I am commenting on where I think things could have been done better or differently. I agree that the injuries to Eze and Olise could not have been foreseen, but it's back to the old issue of the strength of the squad overall. I would say realistically, the performances, even in the few wins we have enjoyed this season, have left a lot to be desired. I've defended Hodgson on here for months, but recent events have left me now firmly in the ' Hodgson Out ' camp. The Olise farce on Saturday was the final straw for me.
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PatrickA London 06 Feb 24 10.17am | |
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My post wasn't to criticise Parish or suggest that me or anybody on this board could do better. Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I love how suddenly everyone knows how to run the club better than Steve Parish. I don't presume to know the thought processes behind decisions. I merely have the right to agree or disagree with them based on face value. I think the warning signs were there for Olise's fragility way before this season, but you can't just find a deputy for a player like him, nor could we probably afford them. Certainly, I thought that we needed to boost the squad in certain obvious positions in the summer and was surprised when we ended up with a luxury untested youngster and another goalkeeper. Equally, I also thought that if there was any season that we would be comfortably safe from relegation, it would be this season. I'm guessing that the Chairman thought that too. Unfortunately, events have conspired against us this time and the last thing we need now is disharmony. Realistically, we have probably lost two games that we should have won this season. We have got two new quality players and must now find some grit to get through this difficult spell. Solidarity.
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dreamwaverider London 06 Feb 24 10.18am | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
Wouldn’t it just be a Palace thing to do to be relegated the very year it starts to build the new stand? In conclusion it is difficult to see a joined up approach or strategy to our approach this season and beyond.
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dreamwaverider London 06 Feb 24 10.30am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I love how suddenly everyone knows how to run the club better than Steve Parish. I think the warning signs were there for Olise's fragility way before this season, but you can't just find a deputy for a player like him, nor could we probably afford them. Certainly, I thought that we needed to boost the squad in certain obvious positions in the summer and was surprised when we ended up with a luxury untested youngster and another goalkeeper. Equally, I also thought that if there was any season that we would be comfortably safe from relegation, it would be this season. I'm guessing that the Chairman thought that too. Unfortunately, events have conspired against us this time and the last thing we need now is disharmony. Realistically, we have probably lost two games that we should have won this season. We have got two new quality players and must now find some grit to get through this difficult spell. Solidarity.
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MrRobbo Chaldon 06 Feb 24 10.38am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I love how suddenly everyone knows how to run the club better than Steve Parish. I don't presume to know the thought processes behind decisions. I merely have the right to agree or disagree with them based on face value. I think the warning signs were there for Olise's fragility way before this season, but you can't just find a deputy for a player like him, nor could we probably afford them. Certainly, I thought that we needed to boost the squad in certain obvious positions in the summer and was surprised when we ended up with a luxury untested youngster and another goalkeeper. Equally, I also thought that if there was any season that we would be comfortably safe from relegation, it would be this season. I'm guessing that the Chairman thought that too. Unfortunately, events have conspired against us this time and the last thing we need now is disharmony. Realistically, we have probably lost two games that we should have won this season. We have got two new quality players and must now find some grit to get through this difficult spell. Solidarity. I don't think people do in reality. But its hard to disagree with anything in NEILLO or PatrickA's posts. Not replacing Zaha, odd expensive signings, playing half injured players and getting surprised when they get injured again, getting an out of touch manager in. Not utilising the loan market, the list could go on. The job is an incredibly hard one, made harder by the comparative lack of finances. But some of the decision making is baffling.
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MFW94 Sutton 06 Feb 24 10.53am | |
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My main issue is that we sacked PV in March 2023, and since then we should have been scouring the world and europe for a suitable manager to join in the summer. When it got to July and we still hadnt appointed anyone, it was clearly obvious they were going to reppoint roy. Here we are a year later, with the same 2/3 manager names being mentioned, still with Roy in charge. Why has the club in nearly 12 months not had a suitable shortlist with achievable to get managers - hate to go on about brighton but they had a list ready to go when Potter left, Bournemouth had a list of managers and got Idraola early. i can bet Brentford already have a list of suitable managers to replace Frank when he leaves. I am unsure what Parish, Freedman and co have been looking at for 12 months. Theres a world of managers out there outside of Cooper and Potter if you search in the right places. Edited by MFW94 (06 Feb 2024 10.53am)
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Hrolf The Ganger 06 Feb 24 11.04am | |
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Originally posted by dreamwaverider
I'm not questioning people's right to discussion or disagreement. What erks me is some of the vitriolic nonsense aimed at Parish and Hodgson on various Palace forums and on match days. I feel sorry for our two new boys, who must wonder what the hell they have walked in to.
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dreamwaverider London 06 Feb 24 11.04am | |
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Originally posted by MFW94
My main issue is that we sacked PV in March 2023, and since then we should have been scouring the world and europe for a suitable manager to join in the summer. When it got to July and we still hadnt appointed anyone, it was clearly obvious they were going to reppoint roy. Here we are a year later, with the same 2/3 manager names being mentioned, still with Roy in charge. Why has the club in nearly 12 months not had a suitable shortlist with achievable to get managers - hate to go on about brighton but they had a list ready to go when Potter left, Bournemouth had a list of managers and got Idraola early. i can bet Brentford already have a list of suitable managers to replace Frank when he leaves. I am unsure what Parish, Freedman and co have been looking at for 12 months. Theres a world of managers out there outside of Cooper and Potter if you search in the right places. Edited by MFW94 (06 Feb 2024 10.53am) Top drawer post. Totally agree
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