Cooper rolled out the example of gay people in Uganda where homosexuality is illegal as a reason to brand Braverman homophobic.

Cooper said in effcet gay Ugandans would be eligible for refugee status in the UK.

The adult population of Uganda is 25 million,

Assume only 2% are homosexual.

That means Labour would extend refugee status to 500,000 Ugandans.

For any of our gay Ugandan eagles, get here asap

British High Commission
4 Windsor Loop, P. O. Box 7070
Kampala
Kampala
Uganda

Telephone
+256 (0) 312 312000 or +44 20 7008 5000.

Edited by HKOwen (26 Sep 2023 11.39pm)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Good question. I could make some rude remarks but I wont.

The point Braveman was making is that there is a difference between having an unpleasant life and being in imminent fear of your life.

Many Jamaicans have successfully claimed asylum in this country because they claim to be gay and yet the Jamaican government does not persecute gays. It may not be a great place to live if you wish to live a gay lifestyle, but then lots of places in the world are not great either.

I remember a case where a gay man from Iran claimed asylum, in his situation the Iranian government executed his partner so I think that was a valid claim.

Having a s*** life is not a good reason to claim asylum.

The purpose of the original convention was to protect political refugees but like many things over the years the definition has been broaden.

Braveman has no chance of getting it changed as the many poor countries in the UN plus the countries that hate the west will never allow it.

You only have to look at which countries sit on the UNHCR committee to see which way the wind blows.

These days the UN is just a stick to beat the west, I don't know why we bother.

Edited by Badger11 (27 Sep 2023 8.37am)

One more point

The absurdity of her argument is quite something.

I guarantee you that 95% of people completely disagree with such codswallop, including a large proportion of gay people.

Ask them if they fancy Yvette Cooper.

If “yes”……………

"He's alright but not my type".

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

What would happen if anyone could come?
I doubt it would be any different to now other than a lot less regulation to go through as they pour in, and a lot less dingies sold in France.