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manwitheagletattoo Somewhere in England 10 Aug 23 8.09am | |
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First of all this is not about Palace but Chelsea. Can anyone explain to me how after being fined £8.6m for breaches of the FFP which in my eyes is a pathetic amount for a club who’s owners think that splashing the cash is the solutions to everything for success. A few years back Man City were fined for doing the same thing but it really does seems to be a case of who cares, pay it and carry on. I know other factors are taken into account attendance turnover but it seems that the top 5/8 clubs can abuse the system no end and get away with it.
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Dubai Eagle 10 Aug 23 8.45am | |
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I saw an article not so long ago where one of the European clubs When considering punishments against its members UEFA are weak with the strong & strong with the weak.
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Badger11 Beckenham 10 Aug 23 9.30am | |
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Originally posted by manwitheagletattoo
First of all this is not about Palace but Chelsea. Can anyone explain to me how after being fined £8.6m for breaches of the FFP which in my eyes is a pathetic amount for a club who’s owners think that splashing the cash is the solutions to everything for success. A few years back Man City were fined for doing the same thing but it really does seems to be a case of who cares, pay it and carry on. I know other factors are taken into account attendance turnover but it seems that the top 5/8 clubs can abuse the system no end and get away with it. Swindon got relegated because of tax fraud. Shortly afterwards Man United admitted to the same "clerical errors" paid a fine to HMRC and got off scot free with the FA as did numerous other big clubs. The cynical might suggest that HMRC and the FA went after the little fish rather than picking on the big well funded culprits. If you are cynical about football that is
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MrRobbo Chaldon 10 Aug 23 10.00am | |
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The notion of having to pay a fine, when the crime was spending too much money is clearly very silly AS the OP said, what's £8.6m to Chelsea. It simply has to be non-financial penalties e.g. points
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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 10 Aug 23 11.10am | |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
The notion of having to pay a fine, when the crime was spending too much money is clearly very silly AS the OP said, what's £8.6m to Chelsea. It simply has to be non-financial penalties e.g. points I agree with you MrRobbo, financial penalties do seem ludicrous when you consider the phenomenal wealth of some clubs. Points deductions, suspension or relegation would surely be more of a deterrent. Manchester City's ongoing investigation is a complicated one and will apparently drag on for a long while before a decision is reached. It'll be very interesting to see the extent of their punishment, if any, when a conclusion is finally reached. The general concept of trying to establish a more equitable way for clubs to behave financially is solid enough, but the penalties don't seem to fit the crime.
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Teddy Eagle 10 Aug 23 11.26am | |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
The notion of having to pay a fine, when the crime was spending too much money is clearly very silly AS the OP said, what's £8.6m to Chelsea. It simply has to be non-financial penalties e.g. points Absolutely. Palace got docked 10 points for owing less than 5% of Arsenal's net spend in the last 5 years. City are facing 115 counts of breaching FFP rules.
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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 10 Aug 23 11.30am | |
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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle
I saw an article not so long ago where one of the European clubs When considering punishments against its members UEFA are weak with the strong & strong with the weak. Juventus, they are banned from Europe 23/24, the old lady is weeping.
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Hudsoneagle 10 Aug 23 11.58am | |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
Juventus, they are banned from Europe 23/24, the old lady is weeping. Big fine suits all doesn’t it. Suits Chelsea. They can pay it. Suits the FA. They get 8.6m and are all buying Rolex watches this weekend. Suits the Premier League officials because it doesn’t tarnish the competition this year…and Chelsea would be seen as a high value product of the league. I agree with what everyone else has said. If it were a lower value product, I.E. someone like ourselves, then what would the punishment be???
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grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 10 Aug 23 1.06pm | |
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The big teams get away with this for many different reasons here is a few. 1. legal team which fights it.
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Badger11 Beckenham 10 Aug 23 2.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad
Juventus, they are banned from Europe 23/24, the old lady is weeping. Considering they broke the rules over multiple seasons and winning trophies they got away lightly.
Edited by Badger11 (10 Aug 2023 2.51pm)
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Aug 23 5.15pm | |
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I presume Saudi teams aren't subject to it.
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grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 10 Aug 23 5.22pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I presume Saudi teams aren't subject to it.
FFP on paper sounds like a good idea but it really is just for show. It tends to keep the smaller teams small and the big teams in the the top position. The lower leagues do tend to hit clubs harder as well.
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