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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 27 Jul 23 11.05pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

As the great man said " we know what you are, we are arguing about the price "

No sign yet of Lineker commenting on the gross hypocrisy.

When John Gielgud found out the movie Caligula had been edited with sort core p*** scenes he said words to the effect that " I was on the verge of disassociating myself from the film until I saw the value of the cheque that arrived "

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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TheBigToePunt Flag 28 Jul 23 12.41am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Pure greed.

He's not the first westerner to chase a big salary in a politically dubious country, but he is one of the few to do so despite having already made enough money to last the average person three or four lifetimes.

As for the accusations of hypocracy, well, there is plainly a significant gap between Hendersons words and his actions. I for one am almost glad he's made this move though, perhaps it will help to remind a few people that virtue signalling isn't the same as actual commitment to principles, and that the two look very different.

In fairness, whilst it's more than possible that some professional footballers have a decent grasp of the complexity of social, political, environmental and economic issues, it's absolutely certain that the wider industry deals only in simplifications, hashtags and gesture politics. I can imagine the s***storm a footballer would bring down on themselves if they stray even slightly from the dumb, corporate, woke party line, and I'm sure Hendersons role with Liverpool and England probably put him in the crosshairs a bit on that front. Even so, he certainly was quick to voice an opinion, so he deserves the loss of reputation he will now receive.

Perhaps the Premier league and it's media partners will learn to stop asking footballers to support their various political posturings for fear of negative social media feedback now? Christ knows thats the main reason they wade so clumsily into such issues to begin with. If Hendersons move has that effect then some good will have come from it all.

He's still a c*** for doing it though.

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kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 28 Jul 23 7.01am Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

As the great man said " we know what you are, we are arguing about the price "

No sign yet of Lineker commenting on the gross hypocrisy.

When John Gielgud found out the movie Caligula had been edited with sort core p*** scenes he said words to the effect that " I was on the verge of disassociating myself from the film until I saw the value of the cheque that arrived "

It was actually fullfat hard p*** scenes, shown throughout europe but Uk got the toned down cut.
(sounds familiar)

 


Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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Matov Flag 28 Jul 23 7.54am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

This is a footballer FFS. A man bought up to exist in a world in which his entire value and meaning of life is around his ability to kick a football.

Outside of a tiny, tiny, few, the vast majority of them exist almost on the intellectual level of trained circus animals. They perform for an audience who pay money to watch.

Of course they are going to chase the money. That is the entire point of being a 'Professional' in their world.

Sure they make all the noises they are trained to do but you cannot actually hold them responsible for that.

And lets not forget, we watch them. We are the audience who make this possible. All the Saudi's are doing is paying more than we are capable of doing so.

We are part of the same hypocrisy.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Jul 23 8.16am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

This is a footballer FFS. A man bought up to exist in a world in which his entire value and meaning of life is around his ability to kick a football.

Outside of a tiny, tiny, few, the vast majority of them exist almost on the intellectual level of trained circus animals. They perform for an audience who pay money to watch.

Of course they are going to chase the money. That is the entire point of being a 'Professional' in their world.

Sure they make all the noises they are trained to do but you cannot actually hold them responsible for that.

And lets not forget, we watch them. We are the audience who make this possible. All the Saudi's are doing is paying more than we are capable of doing so.

We are part of the same hypocrisy.

It's why sport and politics should not mix, it is unfair on the sportman / woman /whatever. Businessman do deals with Saudi everyday and nobody say anything. How may Saudi's have accounts with the reputational concerned Coutts.

The alphabet soup mob are upset because Henderson "actively" supported their movement writing articles in Stonewall's magazine and being nominated by them for an award.

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If he had kept out of this nonsense I would have more respect for him, but just like Harry Kane they support political movements up to the point when it means it might actually impact their careers.

 


One more point

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 28 Jul 23 8.55am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

I think it's wonderful news.

The vulnerability was always to the usual suspect's singular playbook of attacking your character in these instances whereas now there is solid evidence to justify the calls of 'just shut up and play football' when these empty vessels are used to carry political messages.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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