Yep, and because there is zero accountability there will be no change.

Just like there was zero accountability for Iraq.

Just like there was zero accountability for the banking crash of 2008.

The elites are allowed to destroy lives in their millions and they always get off scott free.

In fact it's worse than that.....even when the results are disasters for Joe Public the enactors not only get to hide from accountability but they frequently get promoted and rewarded for loyalty to their paymasters.

Yet, some poor fella screws up his tax form....holy moly.

Failing upwards is so common it's a sick joke....but all together it all contributes to chipping away at the foundations that previous generations worked so hard to build.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 May 2023 12.45am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Just a good summary of the way I'm feeling about the difference between failure at the top and failure amongst the general population.
I've just seen a Manager of mine take 6 months off with stress. She ran the department into the ground. She takes a 2 week cruise whilst off sick, and on her return is promoted 'out of the way', to a job with less work and impact on others. She didn't even have an interview. Imagine how good it must be to be an actual elite ? The rewards must be fantastic

Sorry, i wandered off-topic. The classic "no evidence" line is pulled on all these investigative summaries. It's a cop-out. It was used during Covid, which ultimately meant,.."we didn't look for evidence"

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (17 May 2023 9.40am)

I disengage, I turn the page.

It might be your summary, and that of other posters here as well as what Trump would like you to believe, but it isn't actually true.

The report was commissioned by Trump in 2019 to try to justify his claims of a witch hunt. It's taken 4 years to come up with some criticism of the way the FBI carried out the investigation but there is no suggestion at all that they were politically influenced. They were acting on solid intelligence and would have failed in their duty if they had not investigated.

What's important here is that nothing that Durham has said undermines the validity of what Mueller did or discovered. Many charges were laid, and people went to jail. Russian interference in the 2020 election was established. What was not established was proof that the Trump campaign team conspired with Russia to do this but Mueller was also very careful with his language to say that it was also not established that they didn't.

Mueller was very unhappy about the outcome and the suggestion that he found a lot of evidence that he was restrained from publishing hung over the conclusion of his work. Which is why all his files were transferred to New York out of the reach of White House. They still exist. Maybe their moment will come soon.

There was nothing political involved in this. It was solely investigating the efforts of a foreign country in a US election and the possibility that they were assisted in doing so. That's serious. The FBI cannot ignore such things.

Swallowing Trump bs is not good for your health.

Hunter Biden has never been a politician, let alone a President. He is a troubled guy who probably more needs help than anything else but if he deserves prosecution then let due process determine the facts, Equating an incident of possible treason with the froth surrounding Biden's laptop is nonsensical.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Whilst you are quite right that Durham, after 4 years of digging, has found no evidence of any involvement by the Democrats or anyone else in the FBI's decision to investigate, you are not that they did so without evidence.

We won't have seen, and may never see, that evidence but it is clear, and quite well known, that they were receiving information from a variety of their own, and other intelligence agency, sources that the Russians were interfering in the 2020 election. Something that became more widely discussed when the Steele report became public. Some people seem to think they acted on the Steele report but I don't think that's true. All I think it did was confirm what they already knew and allow the public to become more aware of it.

Their investigation confirmed those reports. Prosecutions and convictions followed. This wasn't done for no reason. It was based on information which justified a detailed investigation into potential treason. The FBI could not have just ignored that.

Why no complaints from the Democrats or FBI? There isn't anything for them to complain about. The Democrats aren't involved. The FBI has acknowledged their errors in procedure and said they have improved things.

The only people trying to build this molehill into the Alps are Trump and those who have any kind of sympathy for him.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

How very dare these Russians giving Western populations misinformation.
That's the job of western Government's

I disengage, I turn the page.

The same thread, by a different title

I disengage, I turn the page.