Transfer activity: who gets what?

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merganser 23 Mar 23 7.54pm
One area of football where greater transparency is required is that of transfers. In my view, details should be published of who gets what - recipient club, player, manager, agent and anyone else with a stake in the transaction. Does any money bypass club accounts find its way direct into the wallets/handbags of individual directors? It’s a murky business, and the reputation of football would surely be enhanced by 100 per cent clarity. I also think players should be obliged to declare which agents represent them.
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merganser

23 Mar 23 7.54pm

One area of football where greater transparency is required is that of transfers.

In my view, details should be published of who gets what - recipient club, player, manager, agent and anyone else with a stake in the transaction.

Does any money bypass club accounts find its way direct into the wallets/handbags of individual directors?

It’s a murky business, and the reputation of football would surely be enhanced by 100 per cent clarity.

I also think players should be obliged to declare which agents represent them.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Mar 23 1.21pm
I believe managers get a percentage of transfers. There were rumours about Pardew and Warnock that I won't repeat here. Obviously big Sam and Harry too - which have been spoken about. I have seen it as 1-1.5% of transfer fees. It doesn't sit well with me and I don't see why. You are right - it should be more transparent. The cynic in me says football transfer fees are like Art prices or the prices of horses - money laundering. There is no possible way of making a 100mil or even 50mil fee back. The TV revenue might cover some of it. There can be merchandise but, overall, even if you win the league and the Champions League in a season your prize money will not cover the transfers and particularly the matching wages. They also usually depreciate in value over time and can of course, flop and be worth nothing, age and be worth nothing, run down their contracts and be worth nothing. In short, transfer fees are far too high - particularly for the average players. You're not going to make 20 mil back out of average players. Some don't even make the team. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Mar 23 1.21pm

I believe managers get a percentage of transfers. There were rumours about Pardew and Warnock that I won't repeat here. Obviously big Sam and Harry too - which have been spoken about.
I have seen it as 1-1.5% of transfer fees. It doesn't sit well with me and I don't see why.
You are right - it should be more transparent.
The cynic in me says football transfer fees are like Art prices or the prices of horses - money laundering. There is no possible way of making a 100mil or even 50mil fee back. The TV revenue might cover some of it. There can be merchandise but, overall, even if you win the league and the Champions League in a season your prize money will not cover the transfers and particularly the matching wages. They also usually depreciate in value over time and can of course, flop and be worth nothing, age and be worth nothing, run down their contracts and be worth nothing.
In short, transfer fees are far too high - particularly for the average players. You're not going to make 20 mil back out of average players. Some don't even make the team.

Red and Blue Army!

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Badger11 Beckenham 25 Mar 23 2.03pm
In fairness to FIFA and others they have tried to regulate the market but it is almost impossible. At one time some managers were getting a kickback oops sorry I mean a well earned percentage e.g. Terry Venebles with us. I believe that is now banned however one Man United manager got around this by appointing his son as one of the agents and therin lies the problem. There are all sorts of "intermediaries" as opposed to agents ranging from the players father / brother etc all getting a kick back which they may or may not have earned. Why would a club as big and successful as Manchester United need to pay an agent to find players to buy? They have a widespread scouting department and agents are queuing up to push their player at the club. Signing for a top 6 club is hardly a difficult sell: - Do you want to play for one of the biggest clubs in the world? - Are you happy with the vast salary they are offering? - Do you want to play in the biggest domestic tournament in the world? So i find it very suspicious when clubs have buying agents as it normally means something else is going on. Anyway as long as they report their taxes none of this is illegal just amoral. One more point
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Beckenham 25 Mar 23 2.03pm

In fairness to FIFA and others they have tried to regulate the market but it is almost impossible.

At one time some managers were getting a kickback oops sorry I mean a well earned percentage e.g. Terry Venebles with us. I believe that is now banned however one Man United manager got around this by appointing his son as one of the agents and therin lies the problem.

There are all sorts of "intermediaries" as opposed to agents ranging from the players father / brother etc all getting a kick back which they may or may not have earned.

Why would a club as big and successful as Manchester United need to pay an agent to find players to buy? They have a widespread scouting department and agents are queuing up to push their player at the club. Signing for a top 6 club is hardly a difficult sell:

- Do you want to play for one of the biggest clubs in the world?
- Are you happy with the vast salary they are offering?
- Do you want to play in the biggest domestic tournament in the world?

So i find it very suspicious when clubs have buying agents as it normally means something else is going on.

Anyway as long as they report their taxes none of this is illegal just amoral.

One more point

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merganser 25 Mar 23 2.20pm
Increasingly in recent years, managers seem to have become by-passed by the chairman/chief executive/ sporting director when it comes to transfer activity. Do these chiefs get a cut? If and when a new Football Regulator is appointed, perhaps he/she will shine a light into this shadowy world. It’s surely only fair that the fans should know what’s going on.
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merganser

25 Mar 23 2.20pm

Increasingly in recent years, managers seem to have become by-passed by the chairman/chief executive/ sporting director when it comes to transfer activity.

Do these chiefs get a cut?

If and when a new Football Regulator is appointed, perhaps he/she will shine a light into this shadowy world.

It’s surely only fair that the fans should know what’s going on.

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