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auk 27 Feb 23 4.33pm | |
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In my view, a lot of nonsense is talked about ‘decision-making’. Its so-called ‘importance’ has been drummed into players such as Schlupp, Ayew, Zaha etc . As a result, they end up spending so much time reflecting what decision to make that the opposing defenders have regrouped and the scoring opportunity is lost. Instead, they should play by instinct - shoot on sight of the whites of the keeper’s eyes.
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Midlands Eagle 27 Feb 23 4.44pm | |
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I think that when people talk about decision making they are actually referring to instinctive decision making and not sitting down to have a think about it. When Schluppy arrived we were told by Leicester fans that although he was very fast his decision making was dreadful
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YT Oxford 27 Feb 23 4.49pm | |
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'Decision-making'...'ability to read the game'...these and no doubt other phrases are just hyperbolic ways of saying "good at football".
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JRW2 Dulwich 27 Feb 23 5.40pm | |
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Originally posted by YT
'Decision-making'...'ability to read the game'...these and no doubt other phrases are just hyperbolic ways of saying "good at football". Jimmy Greaves was "good at football", but I'm not sure that people who know more about the game than I do would have put "decision-making" and "ability to read the game" amongst his attributes.
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YT Oxford 27 Feb 23 6.11pm | |
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Originally posted by JRW2
Jimmy Greaves was "good at football", but I'm not sure that people who know more about the game than I do would have put "decision-making" and "ability to read the game" amongst his attributes. Why?
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beak croydon 27 Feb 23 8.59pm | |
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Originally posted by YT
Why? Greaves was instinctive.
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auk 28 Feb 23 1.02pm | |
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Is instinctive the same as spontaneous?
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PatrickA London 28 Feb 23 1.33pm | |
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For me good decision making equates to having a football brain and making the right decision in the vast majority of cases on the field.
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Den1923 28 Feb 23 2.09pm | |
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Originally posted by beak
Greaves was instinctive. Plus he never gave up and was always running in to the penalty box in anticipation that something may well come his way!
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 28 Feb 23 2.42pm | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
For me good decision making equates to having a football brain and making the right decision in the vast majority of cases on the field. Agree with all the rest but the bottom highlighted seems a bit harsh for me PatA and I would propose something somewhat different: 1. Tactics - Whatever the philosophy is that PV is trying to imbed, it seems or is evidently lacking in the final product. Almost like a sentiment as opposed to an actual strategic approach to the game. The further this progresses up the field, the weaker it becomes for me: 1. Defence of solid technical skilled ball players 2. Midfield are now looking like technically capable players who retain and can move the ball however their tactical drilling not evident and forward passes somewhat predictable/generic 3. Forward line of individualistic players in their own world usually and lacking in ideas to actually score. and then, 2. Individualistic players - More towards the front (as mentioned). Wilf is Wilf, Olise seems to always be looking to cut in or do Olise things and Ayew doing Ayew things with either Mateta looking somewhat lost in the middle or Edouard looking as though he is trying to implement whatever is being trained into him but not quite sure. So end summary for me is we have some players fitting nicely into the philosophy/system however many individual players who do not look amenable or yet capable to deliver whatever is attempting to be achieved. They're all good players IMHO with some fantastic capabilities however they are not operating as a synesthetic and cohesive unit... yet. That's not really a criticism of either PV or players just my perspective of things. Hopefully as time moves forward we will see a nice marriage between PV's tactical approach and the players' individual abilities however it still looks disjointed or half-implemented for me - hence the lack of attempts, goals and wins. And breathe, that was a long post!
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southnorwoodhill 28 Feb 23 6.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
Agree with all the rest but the bottom highlighted seems a bit harsh for me PatA and I would propose something somewhat different: 1. Tactics - Whatever the philosophy is that PV is trying to imbed, it seems or is evidently lacking in the final product. Almost like a sentiment as opposed to an actual strategic approach to the game. The further this progresses up the field, the weaker it becomes for me: 1. Defence of solid technical skilled ball players 2. Midfield are now looking like technically capable players who retain and can move the ball however their tactical drilling not evident and forward passes somewhat predictable/generic 3. Forward line of individualistic players in their own world usually and lacking in ideas to actually score. and then, 2. Individualistic players - More towards the front (as mentioned). Wilf is Wilf, Olise seems to always be looking to cut in or do Olise things and Ayew doing Ayew things with either Mateta looking somewhat lost in the middle or Edouard looking as though he is trying to implement whatever is being trained into him but not quite sure. So end summary for me is we have some players fitting nicely into the philosophy/system however many individual players who do not look amenable or yet capable to deliver whatever is attempting to be achieved. They're all good players IMHO with some fantastic capabilities however they are not operating as a synesthetic and cohesive unit... yet. I look back to Batshuayi and his many offside runs, and I wonder if it was just poor timing on his part or, more likely in my opinion, our players (Zaha main culprit) holding onto the ball too long. One good pass and a well timed run can take out a defence more that some fancy dan step overs and shuffles. This is where we need to be more astute.
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becky over the moon 28 Feb 23 7.26pm | |
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Perhaps, sometimes, they should adopt Ian Wright's old philosophy if you've got a view of the goal, have a shot - eventually, by the law of averages, some of them will go in... Sometimes we seem to be looking for an option to walk the ball into the net.
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