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Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 31 Jan 23 8.53am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

I believe there is a trend in the PL to believe strikers aren't up to it, when really being a good striker requires a modicum of belief and faith from the coaching team and the fans.

It's a bit chicken and egg, obviously, but even Bamford showed that ultimately he was a player who could thrive in the Prem. I believe both Edouard and Mateta could thrive if they just played week in, week out.

Across the division, there are examples of in-and-out strikers who really just need to be told: you're my main man, go out and make it happen.

I believe, for example, that Nketiah will now shine for Arsenal, bringing good play alongside good finishing. He's had his run and now feels part of the group.

For years, there has been this view Mitrovic wasn't Prem. Look at him now.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 31 Jan 23 9.03am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I believe there is a trend in the PL to believe strikers aren't up to it, when really being a good striker requires a modicum of belief and faith from the coaching team and the fans.

It's a bit chicken and egg, obviously, but even Bamford showed that ultimately he was a player who could thrive in the Prem. I believe both Edouard and Mateta could thrive if they just played week in, week out.

Across the division, there are examples of in-and-out strikers who really just need to be told: you're my main man, go out and make it happen.

I believe, for example, that Nketiah will now shine for Arsenal, bringing good play alongside good finishing. He's had his run and now feels part of the group.

For years, there has been this view Mitrovic wasn't Prem. Look at him now.

Think you're right. Strikers need to be confident - Harry Kane is obviously a top goalscorer but part of his success is that he's willing to try things that often come off and he knows he's not going to be dropped if they don't.
We don't have a striker as good as him but the ones we do have could at least try to score more often than they do.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 31 Jan 23 9.08am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

We should sign a train driver I hear they make good strikers.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 31 Jan 23 9.14am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I believe there is a trend in the PL to believe strikers aren't up to it, when really being a good striker requires a modicum of belief and faith from the coaching team and the fans.

It's a bit chicken and egg, obviously, but even Bamford showed that ultimately he was a player who could thrive in the Prem. I believe both Edouard and Mateta could thrive if they just played week in, week out.

Across the division, there are examples of in-and-out strikers who really just need to be told: you're my main man, go out and make it happen.

I believe, for example, that Nketiah will now shine for Arsenal, bringing good play alongside good finishing. He's had his run and now feels part of the group.

For years, there has been this view Mitrovic wasn't Prem. Look at him now.

Strikers can flourish depending on how their teams are performing around them.
In terms of Mitrovic he played for Newcastle in the PL 2015-16 and Newcastle were relegated.
In 2018-19, 20-21 he played for Fulham in the PL and they were relegated in both seasons.

One could argue that a dearth of goals contributed to the failures, however if the team is sub-standard then of course this limits the effectiveness of the strikers.
Nketiah is much improved but he is playing in a top-rated team, I very much doubt he would be the same at our club !

Edited by Willo (31 Jan 2023 9.19am)

 

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mezzer Flag Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 31 Jan 23 10.24am Send a Private Message to mezzer Add mezzer as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

We should sign a train driver I hear they make good strikers.

There must be a Remi Aslef playing in Turkey somewhere. Got to be worth a punt.

 


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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 31 Jan 23 10.27am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I believe there is a trend in the PL to believe strikers aren't up to it, when really being a good striker requires a modicum of belief and faith from the coaching team and the fans.

It's a bit chicken and egg, obviously, but even Bamford showed that ultimately he was a player who could thrive in the Prem. I believe both Edouard and Mateta could thrive if they just played week in, week out.

Across the division, there are examples of in-and-out strikers who really just need to be told: you're my main man, go out and make it happen.

I believe, for example, that Nketiah will now shine for Arsenal, bringing good play alongside good finishing. He's had his run and now feels part of the group.

For years, there has been this view Mitrovic wasn't Prem. Look at him now.

The question is, would Nketia have been playing had Gabriel Jesus not sustained a lengthy injury ? Yes, he's done well but Arsenal had little choice but to give him that run.

As a team, Palace don't create too many chances. Both Mateta and Edouard feed off of scraps. When you look at their all round game aside from scoring goals, I don't think Mateta has the technical ability to be successful at this level. Edouard does I think, but he still looks like he's struggling with the intensity of the game.

If I was to give one of them a run in the team it would be Edouard. And that may well happen if Mateta leaves. And maybe he will prove himself then. But I wouldn't put money on it.

 


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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 31 Jan 23 10.31am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

I hope we learn our lesson and any striker bought in from abroad is a Loan with option to buy, then we shouldn't get stuck with another Donkey.

 


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Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 31 Jan 23 10.32am Send a Private Message to Qwijibo Add Qwijibo as a friend

Always thought Mitovic would do well in the Premier League. You simply can't score that many goals in the tier below and then have nothing to offer. Scott Parker just decided he wasn't the answer, and Fulham went down as a result. So I suppose that example proves the point.

I suspect that had Nketiah signed for us a couple of summers ago, he'd be in a similar boat as our other strikers. Perhaps a few goals here and there, in and out of the side, but rarely a commanding presence whilst on a constant rotation. He'd be getting maybe one chance a game if he's lucky.

I still believe Eduoard has it in him. We're an imperfect side. Scoring goals is difficult, we don't create much. Very few strikers would truly flourish. Realistically, what is a good output? 10 goals? 15 maybe. Eduoard will never get near this while starting one game in every five or six. We could sign someone else and I'm not sure they'd do much better.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 31 Jan 23 10.40am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Apparently Andre Ayew is on a free and Everton are looking at him.

You never know.

 


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southnorwoodhill Flag 31 Jan 23 11.43am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

It's all about the number of chances created by the team that determines the calibre of the striker. Not all goals are scored by an amazing dribble that leaves four defenders on their backsides. A great many are scored just by an intuitive understanding of where to be in the box, and frankly we don't put the ball in the danger area enough.

 

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Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 31 Jan 23 11.49am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

I suspect this chances created thing is also a function of striker movement, which is in turn a function of striker confidence. How many chances did we create with Ian Wright? That fell off a cliff with Gabbiadini?

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 31 Jan 23 11.56am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I suspect this chances created thing is also a function of striker movement, which is in turn a function of striker confidence. How many chances did we create with Ian Wright? That fell off a cliff with Gabbiadini?

There's also creating space for others by running off the ball and dragging defenders out of position. Heskey was praised for doing this playing for England.

 

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