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dima1 Canterbury 04 Jan 23 10.41pm | |
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I wonder whether Parish made the right decision by hiring Vieira. He obviously was looking for a coach who would play possession/attacking football. However, with the complete lack of funds to buy players for this type of football and Vieira having to play championship level players like Schlupp and Ward, I wonder if the team would have been better off keeping Roy as a coach or hiring someone like Sean Dyche, who would provide result based off solid defending. We hear about the desire to take that next step (eg Parish saying something along the lines of there being two types of teams in premier league, those who play in Europe or those who do not). But we see no effort to improve the squad with players to match the playing style preferred by our coach, which mixed with Vieira's stubbornness to play 4-3-3 without having the right players and a complete lack of desire to try youngsters from the academy pushes us towards relegation instead of fighting for the Conference League spot. Very curious to hear everyone's opinion.
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Elpis In a pub 04 Jan 23 10.53pm | |
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Long term we are hoping for some jems out of the academy
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waddy Highton,Melbourne 04 Jan 23 11.46pm | |
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My opinion got slated in another message board - here goes again …. Afraid to say some players in his squad are not capable of doing it day in day out - Investors by all means buy other clubs but please buy some players - 1 attacking Mid -2 Attacking Defender - 3 scorer My opinion
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 04 Jan 23 11.50pm | |
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Originally posted by waddy
My opinion got slated in another message board - here goes again …. Afraid to say some players in his squad are not capable of doing it day in day out - Investors by all means buy other clubs but please buy some players - 1 attacking Mid -2 Attacking Defender - 3 scorer My opinion Polishing off the Xmas sherry Waddy? Don't blame yer tonight.
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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 05 Jan 23 11.00am | |
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What a mad thread. Last season we conceded our fewest ever Premier League goals, scored our second most ever and played a far better brand of football than under Roy who, at times, made hari-kari seem an attractive option. The simple fact is that we haven't backed Vieira anywhere near enough and we're being punished for it. I'd argue that we're overperforming actually. We responded to the long term injury of James McArthur and the departure of Gallagher by signing Doucoure who, although I love him, is nowhere near enough. There is no way Schlupp should be starting in our midfield after 10 years in the division. At least two additional players are required there. Then there is Ayew. Regardless of how hard he works, like Schlupp, he shouldn't be starting up front for us at this point. We haven't had a top class striker since Murray and he left 8 years ago. Two key chances in the first half came to Ayew last night. The first, when he was played through, he miscontrolled and lost the ball. The second he opted to shoot from a tight position, rather than playing a short ball to Olise who was clear and would have been favourite to score. If we'd converted either of those chances it could have been a different game. It is a disgrace that, with Mitchell injured, we have no left back cover and Joel Ward, who is a questionable choice at right back these days, has to fill in. I legitimately think we need a decent striker, two midfielders, a right back, a left back and cover in central defence. Plus their is the looming spectre of Zaha leaving for nothing who won't be cheap to replace. There's no way we're doing this business in January and I am skeptical we will in the summer either. Andersen, Guehi, Doucoure, Zaha, Eze and Olise is the core of an outstanding team but they need more support ASAP. Vieira is doing a good job with his hands tied, like most of our managers have to, and without serious investment over the next couple of windows, I imagine he'll bugger off before long. Ideal January? Gallagher back on loan and get Danny Ings who, although 30, is a year younger than Ayew and is a proven goalscorer in the Prem.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jan 23 11.06am | |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
What a mad thread. Last season we conceded our fewest ever Premier League goals, scored our second most ever and played a far better brand of football than under Roy who, at times, made hari-kari seem an attractive option. The simple fact is that we haven't backed Vieira anywhere near enough and we're being punished for it. I'd argue that we're overperforming actually. We responded to the long term injury of James McArthur and the departure of Gallagher by signing Doucoure who, although I love him, is nowhere near enough. There is no way Schlupp should be starting in our midfield after 10 years in the division. At least two additional players are required there. Then there is Ayew. Regardless of how hard he works, like Schlupp, he shouldn't be starting up front for us at this point. We haven't had a top class striker since Murray and he left 8 years ago. Two key chances in the first half came to Ayew last night. The first, when he was played through, he miscontrolled and lost the ball. The second he opted to shoot from a tight position, rather than playing a short ball to Olise who was clear and would have been favourite to score. If we'd converted either of those chances it could have been a different game. It is a disgrace that, with Mitchell injured, we have no left back cover and Joel Ward, who is a questionable choice at right back these days, has to fill in. I legitimately think we need a decent striker, two midfielders, a right back, a left back and cover in central defence. Plus their is the looming spectre of Zaha leaving for nothing who won't be cheap to replace. There's no way we're doing this business in January and I am skeptical we will in the summer either. Andersen, Guehi, Doucoure, Zaha, Eze and Olise is the core of an outstanding team but they need more support ASAP. Vieira is doing a good job with his hands tied, like most of our managers have to, and without serious investment over the next couple of windows, I imagine he'll bugger off before long. Ideal January? Gallagher back on loan and get Danny Ings who, although 30, is a year younger than Ayew and is a proven goalscorer in the Prem.
Everton enquired about Ings on 'Loan' but A.Villa are only interested in a permanent deal. Our club would not be interested in a permanent transfer for a player who is 30.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 05 Jan 23 11.09am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Everton enquired about Ings on 'Loan' but A.Villa are only interested in a permanent deal. Our club would not be interested in a permanent transfer for a player who is 30. And that's precisely why there's a massive glut of experience in the squad. Recruiting young and for value/re-sale is great, but it needs to be supplemented with experienced pros who are proven at this level - Ings is exactly that. We can't make money on every transfer, nor should we be aiming to.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jan 23 11.12am | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
And that's precisely why there's a massive glut of experience in the squad. Recruiting young and for value/re-sale is great, but it needs to be supplemented with experienced pros who are proven at this level - Ings is exactly that. We can't make money on every transfer, nor should we be aiming to. Jam tomorrow when we are in a bit of a jam at present.
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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 05 Jan 23 11.30am | |
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Originally posted by Willo
Everton enquired about Ings on 'Loan' but A.Villa are only interested in a permanent deal. Our club would not be interested in a permanent transfer for a player who is 30.
We made the mistake of letting Murray go at 32 because he was too old and then in the following three seasons he scored 23 in the Championship, 12 in the PL and then 13 in the PL.
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aashman12 05 Jan 23 11.31am | |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
What a mad thread. Last season we conceded our fewest ever Premier League goals, scored our second most ever and played a far better brand of football than under Roy who, at times, made hari-kari seem an attractive option. The simple fact is that we haven't backed Vieira anywhere near enough and we're being punished for it. I'd argue that we're overperforming actually. We responded to the long term injury of James McArthur and the departure of Gallagher by signing Doucoure who, although I love him, is nowhere near enough. There is no way Schlupp should be starting in our midfield after 10 years in the division. At least two additional players are required there. Then there is Ayew. Regardless of how hard he works, like Schlupp, he shouldn't be starting up front for us at this point. We haven't had a top class striker since Murray and he left 8 years ago. Two key chances in the first half came to Ayew last night. The first, when he was played through, he miscontrolled and lost the ball. The second he opted to shoot from a tight position, rather than playing a short ball to Olise who was clear and would have been favourite to score. If we'd converted either of those chances it could have been a different game. It is a disgrace that, with Mitchell injured, we have no left back cover and Joel Ward, who is a questionable choice at right back these days, has to fill in. I legitimately think we need a decent striker, two midfielders, a right back, a left back and cover in central defence. Plus their is the looming spectre of Zaha leaving for nothing who won't be cheap to replace. There's no way we're doing this business in January and I am skeptical we will in the summer either. Andersen, Guehi, Doucoure, Zaha, Eze and Olise is the core of an outstanding team but they need more support ASAP. Vieira is doing a good job with his hands tied, like most of our managers have to, and without serious investment over the next couple of windows, I imagine he'll bugger off before long. Ideal January? Gallagher back on loan and get Danny Ings who, although 30, is a year younger than Ayew and is a proven goalscorer in the Prem.
Sure we conceded fewer in alan smiths season 94/95.
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johnny the eagle wivenhoe 05 Jan 23 11.32am | |
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Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
What a mad thread. Last season we conceded our fewest ever Premier League goals, scored our second most ever and played a far better brand of football than under Roy who, at times, made hari-kari seem an attractive option. The simple fact is that we haven't backed Vieira anywhere near enough and we're being punished for it. I'd argue that we're overperforming actually. We responded to the long term injury of James McArthur and the departure of Gallagher by signing Doucoure who, although I love him, is nowhere near enough. There is no way Schlupp should be starting in our midfield after 10 years in the division. At least two additional players are required there. Then there is Ayew. Regardless of how hard he works, like Schlupp, he shouldn't be starting up front for us at this point. We haven't had a top class striker since Murray and he left 8 years ago. Two key chances in the first half came to Ayew last night. The first, when he was played through, he miscontrolled and lost the ball. The second he opted to shoot from a tight position, rather than playing a short ball to Olise who was clear and would have been favourite to score. If we'd converted either of those chances it could have been a different game. It is a disgrace that, with Mitchell injured, we have no left back cover and Joel Ward, who is a questionable choice at right back these days, has to fill in. I legitimately think we need a decent striker, two midfielders, a right back, a left back and cover in central defence. Plus their is the looming spectre of Zaha leaving for nothing who won't be cheap to replace. There's no way we're doing this business in January and I am skeptical we will in the summer either. Andersen, Guehi, Doucoure, Zaha, Eze and Olise is the core of an outstanding team but they need more support ASAP. Vieira is doing a good job with his hands tied, like most of our managers have to, and without serious investment over the next couple of windows, I imagine he'll bugger off before long. Ideal January? Gallagher back on loan and get Danny Ings who, although 30, is a year younger than Ayew and is a proven goalscorer in the Prem.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Jan 23 11.37am | |
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Originally posted by aashman12
Sure we conceded fewer in alan smiths season 94/95. In the 1994-95 season we conceded 49 goals.
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