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Midlands Eagle 20 Nov 22 11.46am | |
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According to today's media reports:- Labour would abolish the House of Lords and replace it with a "new, reformed upper chamber", the party has confirmed to the BBC. Sir Keir Starmer told Labour peers that he wanted to strip politicians of the power to appoint people to the chamber in the first term of a Labour government. He said that Tory leaders have handed peerages to "lackeys and donors". The party is expected to confirm its plans in its next manifesto. Has Sir Keir forgotten about the cash for honours scandal or is he hoping that the rest of us have?
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cryrst The garden of England 20 Nov 22 12.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
According to today's media reports:- Labour would abolish the House of Lords and replace it with a "new, reformed upper chamber", the party has confirmed to the BBC. Sir Keir Starmer told Labour peers that he wanted to strip politicians of the power to appoint people to the chamber in the first term of a Labour government. He said that Tory leaders have handed peerages to "lackeys and donors". The party is expected to confirm its plans in its next manifesto. Has Sir Keir forgotten about the cash for honours scandal or is he hoping that the rest of us have? So is that a USA type system where even less gets approved or dismissed.
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Stirlingsays 20 Nov 22 12.33pm | |
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Starmer is awful. 'Only the names change, brother'.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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PalazioVecchio south pole 20 Nov 22 12.58pm | |
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the Upper House in most Parliaments is a irrelevant joke. in the UK, mad drunken Lords prevail - to the manor born. In Ireland, appointed political insiders are put into the seats as a reward for some other favours done. Loons, poets, political lobbyists, troublemakers, Lefties, retired ministers, eccentric academics, sexual deviants, & religious fruitcakes, Both Upper houses are a laughing stock. methinks of the right honourable Denis Healey going 'ho ho ho' when they were dressing him in the Red coat with the white trim.
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Jacey 20 Nov 22 1.26pm | |
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Starmer is awful is the correct answer.Along with his hopeless,equally uninspiring shadow cabinet,which is a nailed on certainty to be in power in some two years. God help the UK.Time to plan your exit if you are able,to avoid this shower.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 20 Nov 22 2.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Jacey
Starmer is awful is the correct answer.Along with his hopeless,equally uninspiring shadow cabinet . a bunch of Feminists, Marxists and Thickies......what is there not to love ?
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Runningman Keston 20 Nov 22 4.40pm | |
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Labour hypocrisy. Everything they say and everything they do !
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Matov 20 Nov 22 5.50pm | |
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This is just froth from Labour. And from a man who literally single-handedly gifted the Tories a 80 seat election win by way of pushing his own leadership, whilst destroying the faith of millions of people in voting, having only actually come into politics himself in 2015. And who then booted our Labour's most popular leader, who in 2017 got a huge amount of votes and is seeking to permanently exclude the man.
The House of Lords is an irrelevance. Yes, ditch it but this idea that somehow that is going to restore faith in the system is an insult to our collective intelligence.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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The Dolphin 20 Nov 22 5.52pm | |
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The Lord's is ridiculous now but for Labour to pretend they have done nothing wrong is such a lie.
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Badger11 Beckenham 29 Nov 22 7.52am | |
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Labour plan to charge VAT on private school fees. So Starmer has finally come out with a policy instead of sitting on the sidelines. Actually I agree with him on this point, to a certain extent. Most private schools have charitable status and Starmer is now planning on removing this. I am not against private schools far from it but why should they enjoy charitable status and receive tax payer benefits when they don't actually help the public. Most pay lip service to their charitable work and will roll out the odd poor kid from the council estate whose getting a freebie, it's not enough. Private education is a personal choice but so if flying business class or eating in expensive restaurants. If you can do it good luck but don't expect the rest of us to subsidize it. How should the Tories respond? Well for a long time I have complained about organizations that enjoy charitable status and don't deserve it. For example there are many "charities" that are really left wing political campaign groups, then of course there are the dodgy rich people who use them as an unfair tax break. It's time to redefine what charitable status is. I don't have an exact definition but for example I would insist that annually charities publish what percentage of their income is spent on good works and any that fall below a threshold should lose it. I think the public would be shocked if they knew how little of their hard earned money actually goes on good causes and how much goes on salaries, lavish lifestyle and offices in Chelsea or Mayfair. None of this is likely to happen, both parties have too many vested interested so if Labour get elected they will pick on private schools and let the rest off.
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beak croydon 29 Nov 22 8.21am | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
a bunch of Feminists, Marxists and Thickies......what is there not to love ? ....and the Tories having changed Leader THREE times this year, Boris the bare faced liar with a Police record, the first Premier to break the law in office. Liz Truss the maker of extremely poor un funded tax cuts who very nearly capsized everyone's pensions and becoming the shortest serving Premier.I think Labour cannot sink as low as the terrible tories.
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Badger11 Beckenham 29 Nov 22 8.31am | |
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Originally posted by beak
....and the Tories having changed Leader THREE times this year, Boris the bare faced liar with a Police record, the first Premier to break the law in office. Liz Truss the maker of extremely poor un funded tax cuts who very nearly capsized everyone's pensions and becoming the shortest serving Premier.I think Labour cannot sink as low as the terrible tories. Unfortunately this is a dick measuring content only in this case it's whose party is not as terrible as the other lot. Hardly a vote of confidence. Where is the man of vision and principle.
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