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Matov Flag 04 Aug 22 6.07pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

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Seeing some interesting noises/chatter about this across the political spectrum.

Not sure how I feel about it so am interested in all views.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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W12 04 Aug 22 6.14pm

I think it's astroturfed.

People who try this will probably end up with fines / criminal records or bankrupt.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Aug 22 6.18pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

So they can't the public can't afford to pay but they want money from you anyway?

I'm all for bringing energy bills down but non payment will just end up as a mess and not solve the problem.

They could start by abolishing the green levy.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 04 Aug 22 6.19pm

Originally posted by Matov

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Seeing some interesting noises/chatter about this across the political spectrum.

Not sure how I feel about it so am interested in all views.

Fcuking socialists- get another job you lazy fcukers- theres plenty out there- and pay your way!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 04 Aug 22 6.22pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

Fcuking socialists- get another job you lazy fcukers- theres plenty out there- and pay your way!

STOP, I repeat STOP, thinking you work to live! NO. NO. NO. We live to work- we better get used to it - but its the way we want it, always have, always will!:Now, wheres my passport?

 

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W12 04 Aug 22 6.30pm

From an online source:

"Regarding don't pay. They broke cover June 18th at the TUC rally eks back (ALL mainstream news stations featured them as did most red & blacktops) looks to be have been put together by Resolution Foundation, a Blairite think tank. When I started asking questions publicly on twitter, first they started a pile-on, then when I followed all those taking part in the pile-on, they blocked me en masse, & also from their main @dontpay account. Their email communications are via action [Link] a Washington NGO set up by John Kerry staffers and handling BLM, various climate change "protestors" & gun law opposers. Their "grassroots activists" were featured in a Socialist Worker report - all of them Socialist Worker members/regional reps."

 

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kev64 Flag Cambs 04 Aug 22 6.45pm Send a Private Message to kev64 Add kev64 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

So they can't the public can't afford to pay but they want money from you anyway?

I'm all for bringing energy bills down but non payment will just end up as a mess and not solve the problem.

They could start by abolishing the green levy.

Seriously your happy with Shell, Bp and every other energy company fleecing us stealing billions. French owned eon 4% rise in France 56% here .

The government gives zero s***s .. Truss is a grade a Cnt . There is no cost of living crisis it’s state sponsored corporate theft

 

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Matov Flag 04 Aug 22 6.52pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by W12

From an online source:

"Regarding don't pay. They broke cover June 18th at the TUC rally eks back (ALL mainstream news stations featured them as did most red & blacktops) looks to be have been put together by Resolution Foundation, a Blairite think tank. When I started asking questions publicly on twitter, first they started a pile-on, then when I followed all those taking part in the pile-on, they blocked me en masse, & also from their main @dontpay account. Their email communications are via action [Link] a Washington NGO set up by John Kerry staffers and handling BLM, various climate change "protestors" & gun law opposers. Their "grassroots activists" were featured in a Socialist Worker report - all of them Socialist Worker members/regional reps."

Interesting. Will look into that myself.

I did wonder about the Left Wing angle because this kind of campaign has the potential to backfire against them by way of later reaction to this Net Zero BS because, lets be honest, the Left are not going to champion cutting taxes on anything, which would be the most logical way to get fuel prices down.

So by 'championing' this kind of campaign now, they take leadership of the protests and direct them as they see fit?


All ears on this one.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 04 Aug 22 7.25pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Interesting. Will look into that myself.

I did wonder about the Left Wing angle because this kind of campaign has the potential to backfire against them by way of later reaction to this Net Zero BS because, lets be honest, the Left are not going to champion cutting taxes on anything, which would be the most logical way to get fuel prices down.

So by 'championing' this kind of campaign now, they take leadership of the protests and direct them as they see fit?


All ears on this one.

Here we go nail on head ,green net zero bull s***.
This whole thing imo is about the fear of oil running out so let’s find another way to make tax dollars, pounds. Oil is not a fossil fuel. It is twice as deep as the deepest fossil ever found durgh what does that tell you. It’s a mineral and we’ve probably used a tiny % of what’s there. It may run out but in say over 1000 years but I am willing to accept within a couple of hundred years technology will make it an unviable energy source. People are being played, kids are being brainwashed, even grownups ! Are believing this climate change s***. Two on here who are very comfortable thankyou keep giving ‘friends ’ who know everything or evidence which proves its all us. In two hundred years, yeh right; the earth is living and 4.5 billion years old. You’ve got XR giving it large from their 5 bed houses in Sevenoaks or some north London posh area, ironically if and it’s a very low ball if, imo we are responsible it’s them and their kin burning coal like it’s going out of fashion who caused it. If anyone with any bollox of any stature in the field were to just wake the f*** up and shout it loud without fear they have my total backing FWIW I guess. This crisis is all and I mean all down to green s*** and the sooner people wake up and realise that then maybe we can have a better, more understanding, less stressful existence.
Hallelujah and A f***ing men

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 04 Aug 22 7.37pm

Originally posted by W12

I think it's astroturfed.

People who try this will probably end up with fines / criminal records or bankrupt.

On the plus side . great work for the bailiffs!

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 04 Aug 22 7.38pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

STOP, I repeat STOP, thinking you work to live! NO. NO. NO. We live to work- we better get used to it - but its the way we want it, always have, always will!:Now, wheres my passport?

Haven’t left yet then CP? What you waiting for?

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 04 Aug 22 7.42pm

Originally posted by kev64

Seriously your happy with Shell, Bp and every other energy company fleecing us stealing billions. French owned eon 4% rise in France 56% here .

The government gives zero s***s .. Truss is a grade a Cnt . There is no cost of living crisis it’s state sponsored corporate theft

And don"t forget another 73% rise by January- on the bright side, at least we don"t have Jeremy C in charge- that cnut would have put up workers wages and hit the banks and bankers bonus!

 

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