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 scarlet  Turkey 23 Mar 22 5.04am |
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Whatever happens from now until the end of the season it will have been a great season. Can we take out two of the three possibly best clubs in the world and win the FA Cup finally? Who knows but surely worth a bet. No relegation battle this year is a welcome relief. We have an exciting band of footballers performing for a coach I hope we can keep. Proud to be Palace!
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| sydtheeagle England 23 Mar 22 11.40am |
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I agree. But... (This is not a criticism of what you wrote) ...We have to end this mentality of settling for less than we're worth. We HAVE had a great season, no doubt about it. BUT with the players we now have (young, talented, and energetic), the style of football we're playing, the manager that's leading us, owners who genuinely support the club, and a fan base that's among the best in the country someone needs to say 11th/12th place and a good cup run is NOT ENOUGH. We need to get into the top ten because right now, we BELONG there. And it shouldn't be a one-off achievement; the top ten would reflect our status as, reasonably right now, one of the top ten clubs in the PL. And we need to win something; anything, because over a century has been far too long for a club of our stature to have never won a major trophy at all. Ipswich has. Southampton has. Coventry has. Leicester has. Nottingham Forest has. We belong in, at least, that tier of clubs. And we need to get into Europe, too, even if it's the Conference League. So with where we are right now, I'm NOT prepared to settle for less than we're worth. We've been on the edge of this sort of success before (1980, 1990) and failed to press on and go over the top. Not this time, please. It's been a brilliant season, yes, but it's NOT ENOUGH yet. We need to show some ambition for ourselves, and act like we belong. Let's make this year the start of a platform for the sustained success we've earned and deserve. Not the end of the journey of improvement, but just the beginning of being what CPFC ought to be.
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| monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 23 Mar 22 11.47am |
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Originally posted by scarlet
Whatever happens from now until the end of the season it will have been a great season. Can we take out two of the three possibly best clubs in the world and win the FA Cup finally? Who knows but surely worth a bet. No relegation battle this year is a welcome relief. We have an exciting band of footballers performing for a coach I hope we can keep. Proud to be Palace! Correct, the transformation has been not much short of a miracle, we’re a completely different team and so much more enjoyable to watch. Even if we fail miserably in the semi and the league season peters out now, I’ve enjoyed it.
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| MrRobbo Chaldon 23 Mar 22 12.17pm |
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Originally posted by sydtheeagle
I agree. But... (This is not a criticism of what you wrote) ...We have to end this mentality of settling for less than we're worth. We HAVE had a great season, no doubt about it. BUT with the players we now have (young, talented, and energetic), the style of football we're playing, the manager that's leading us, owners who genuinely support the club, and a fan base that's among the best in the country someone needs to say 11th/12th place and a good cup run is NOT ENOUGH. We need to get into the top ten because right now, we BELONG there. And it shouldn't be a one-off achievement; the top ten would reflect our status as, reasonably right now, one of the top ten clubs in the PL. And we need to win something; anything, because over a century has been far too long for a club of our stature to have never won a major trophy at all. Ipswich has. Southampton has. Coventry has. Leicester has. Nottingham Forest has. We belong in, at least, that tier of clubs. And we need to get into Europe, too, even if it's the Conference League. So with where we are right now, I'm NOT prepared to settle for less than we're worth. We've been on the edge of this sort of success before (1980, 1990) and failed to press on and go over the top. Not this time, please. It's been a brilliant season, yes, but it's NOT ENOUGH yet. We need to show some ambition for ourselves, and act like we belong. Let's make this year the start of a platform for the sustained success we've earned and deserve. Not the end of the journey of improvement, but just the beginning of being what CPFC ought to be. I'd agree with the ambition, but lets temper it with reality. We have 2 very difficult games in the cup, after a pretty easy run. And a bunch of difficult games in the league. A league where we are nowhere near the top 10 in terms of spend. That being said, we are progressing brilliantly, and couldn't agree more that now is the time to kick on.
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| sydtheeagle England 23 Mar 22 1.25pm |
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Originally posted by MrRobbo
We have 2 very difficult games in the cup, after a pretty easy run. This is absolutely true but it also makes exactly the point I was making. Yes, we're the weakest of the four remaining teams, the other three of whom are all world-class which, for all our improvement, we are not. But part of the equation here is self-belief; if you don't think you belong, you never will belong. If you don't expect to win, you probably won't. Look at this forum. Many talk about avoiding relegation as an achievement and in the past, it has been. For my money, it's NOT any more. We need to raise the bar with regard to how we see ourselves. For now, tenth place is an achievement. Finishing in 17th isn't. That's the minimum acceptable standard. I am not saying we should go into the semi-final expecting we're better than Chelsea player-by-player because we're obviously not but I do expect us to go in thinking we CAN win and go in with a plan that gives us the best chance to do so. We have to go into it believing that we are good enough, on the day, to get a result. And we are. We have three players in the full England squad. We have an AFCON winner who's already lifted a major trophy bigger than the FA Cup this year. We've beaten Man City at the Etihad. Whoever we've beaten to get there, we're at Wembley. We are bang in form right now. We are in the semi-final because we're one of the best four teams in the tournament. I agree, we should be realistic but that doesn't mean we can't be positive and optimistic. We probably have a one in ten chance of beating the other three teams in the tournament on any given day. Self belief maybe increases that to two in ten. Let's believe and go for it. Let's all stop thinking we're not as good as we are.
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| MrRobbo Chaldon 23 Mar 22 2.01pm |
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We 100% should believe in ourselves and have nothing to fear. Since the turn of the year, we've drawn with City, narrowly lost to Chelsea and gave Liverpool a run for their money. Apart from a Mane/Salah firing Liverpool I don't think there is anyone that we aren't capable of beating on our day. For what its worth I think we're going to stuff Chelsea
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| Booted Eagle Bristol 23 Mar 22 3.14pm |
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Originally posted by sydtheeagle
This is absolutely true but it also makes exactly the point I was making. Yes, we're the weakest of the four remaining teams, the other three of whom are all world-class which, for all our improvement, we are not. But part of the equation here is self-belief; if you don't think you belong, you never will belong. If you don't expect to win, you probably won't. Look at this forum. Many talk about avoiding relegation as an achievement and in the past, it has been. For my money, it's NOT any more. We need to raise the bar with regard to how we see ourselves. For now, tenth place is an achievement. Finishing in 17th isn't. That's the minimum acceptable standard. I am not saying we should go into the semi-final expecting we're better than Chelsea player-by-player because we're obviously not but I do expect us to go in thinking we CAN win and go in with a plan that gives us the best chance to do so. We have to go into it believing that we are good enough, on the day, to get a result. And we are. We have three players in the full England squad. We have an AFCON winner who's already lifted a major trophy bigger than the FA Cup this year. We've beaten Man City at the Etihad. Whoever we've beaten to get there, we're at Wembley. We are bang in form right now. We are in the semi-final because we're one of the best four teams in the tournament. I agree, we should be realistic but that doesn't mean we can't be positive and optimistic. We probably have a one in ten chance of beating the other three teams in the tournament on any given day. Self belief maybe increases that to two in ten. Let's believe and go for it. Let's all stop thinking we're not as good as we are. Agree but concerns will be early nerves which we saw against Everton. If we are at that level a much better side could be out of sight in 15 mins. It is good to see Guehi and Mitchell hopefully getting some England time. Anyway it's going to be a great occasion for us at Wembley, twice hopefully, capping a very good season. COYP !!
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Mar 22 3.22pm |
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Originally posted by sydtheeagle
This is absolutely true but it also makes exactly the point I was making. Yes, we're the weakest of the four remaining teams, the other three of whom are all world-class which, for all our improvement, we are not. But part of the equation here is self-belief; if you don't think you belong, you never will belong. If you don't expect to win, you probably won't. Look at this forum. Many talk about avoiding relegation as an achievement and in the past, it has been. For my money, it's NOT any more. We need to raise the bar with regard to how we see ourselves. For now, tenth place is an achievement. Finishing in 17th isn't. That's the minimum acceptable standard. I am not saying we should go into the semi-final expecting we're better than Chelsea player-by-player because we're obviously not but I do expect us to go in thinking we CAN win and go in with a plan that gives us the best chance to do so. We have to go into it believing that we are good enough, on the day, to get a result. And we are. We have three players in the full England squad. We have an AFCON winner who's already lifted a major trophy bigger than the FA Cup this year. We've beaten Man City at the Etihad. Whoever we've beaten to get there, we're at Wembley. We are bang in form right now. We are in the semi-final because we're one of the best four teams in the tournament. I agree, we should be realistic but that doesn't mean we can't be positive and optimistic. We probably have a one in ten chance of beating the other three teams in the tournament on any given day. Self belief maybe increases that to two in ten. Let's believe and go for it. Let's all stop thinking we're not as good as we are. Presumably Viera will give the players a game plan to concentrate on, rather than letting too many nerves come into it.
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Ian-VI  Vicenza 23 Mar 22 3.53pm |
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Originally posted by scarlet
Whatever happens from now until the end of the season it will have been a great season. Can we take out two of the three possibly best clubs in the world and win the FA Cup finally? Who knows but surely worth a bet. No relegation battle this year is a welcome relief. We have an exciting band of footballers performing for a coach I hope we can keep. Proud to be Palace! Not sure I got what you meant, but were we in a relegation battle last year?
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| Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 23 Mar 22 4.04pm |
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The issue for me, as we pause to reflect, is that our club has become very noticeable in the media. From being one of the makeweights in the Premier League, we have become high profile. Even Hartlepool know about us now! Our manager is now talked about in glowing terms, rightly so, but a year ago I doubt any of us considered him to be our next manager. The issue is that, because he has done so well in transforming the way we play and guiding our young talent, he is going to be on the radar of clubs looking for a new boss. He seems to be enjoying his journey with Palace, but we need to hang on to him. The same goes for our players. The Mail today ran a piece about the Crystal Palace talent factory. Dougie and his team have done a remarkable job in bringing in fresh, young talent. The likes of Mitchell, Guehi and, of course, Gallagher on loan. These three are getting the film star treatment now they have been selected to play for England. Eze will be next. If they weren't already in the sights of scouts here and abroad they will be now. We know Gallagher will return to Chelsea, but we need to keep and develop the exciting players that we now so enjoy watching. It's been said elsewhere that we don't want to do a Southampton and sell off our best players just when we're getting the most out of them. So, whilst it's great to see our club earning well deserved recognition, we don't want to see it work against us. I agree with Syd above. We are good enough now to take on the big boys and we need to be recognised as belonging to the big boy's band so our manager and players will want to stay and not do what Wilf thought he wanted when he said he was keen to join a big club like Everton. Let's hope the present set up, with Mr Parish at the helm, continues to develop and flourish. And that includes a new stadium and a decent pitch!
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Mar 22 4.44pm |
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I don't want to pause for reflection. I want to get completely carried away.
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| Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 23 Mar 22 5.35pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I don't want to pause for reflection. I want to get completely carried away. I will be, literally, if we get to the final or even win the FA Cup!
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!! |
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