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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Mar 22 1.15pm | |
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I see Jim Davidson is 'trending' for supposedly "bashing" celebs who have been promoting the idea of taking in refugees (Ukraine) and in turn saying, or rather questioning, would they take in a homeless Veteran. Now, I think either would be a worthy cause of course but would be interested to see other's take on this? I don't know much about JD apart from the usual stereotypes to which he is associated and have seen limited coverage of his comedy, to the extent I have no real comments in any circumstance. Is he spouting 'right-wing' nationalistic, anti-immigration nonsense? Is he just primarily contrasting and raising awareness around the treatment of veterans? Or has he raised a very valid point regarding where people's, or namely 'celebs' priorities lie with regards to virtue signalling as opposed to promoting, engaging or contributing anything of actual or original substance? Genuinely interested.
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Stirlingsays 15 Mar 22 1.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I see Jim Davidson is 'trending' for supposedly "bashing" celebs who have been promoting the idea of taking in refugees (Ukraine) and in turn saying, or rather questioning, would they take in a homeless Veteran. Now, I think either would be a worthy cause of course but would be interested to see other's take on this? I don't know much about JD apart from the usual stereotypes to which he is associated and have seen limited coverage of his comedy, to the extent I have no real comments in any circumstance. Is he spouting 'right-wing' nationalistic, anti-immigration nonsense? Is he just primarily contrasting and raising awareness around the treatment of veterans? Or has he raised a very valid point regarding where people's, or namely 'celebs' priorities lie with regards to virtue signalling as opposed to promoting, engaging or contributing anything of actual or original substance? Genuinely interested. While not everything is 'virtue signalling' I think most of us recognise it when we see it. Anything that encourages people to live their principles rather than preach them is alright by me.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 15 Mar 22 2.00pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I see Jim Davidson is 'trending' for supposedly "bashing" celebs who have been promoting the idea of taking in refugees (Ukraine) and in turn saying, or rather questioning, would they take in a homeless Veteran. Now, I think either would be a worthy cause of course but would be interested to see other's take on this? I don't know much about JD apart from the usual stereotypes to which he is associated and have seen limited coverage of his comedy, to the extent I have no real comments in any circumstance. Is he spouting 'right-wing' nationalistic, anti-immigration nonsense? Is he just primarily contrasting and raising awareness around the treatment of veterans? Or has he raised a very valid point regarding where people's, or namely 'celebs' priorities lie with regards to virtue signalling as opposed to promoting, engaging or contributing anything of actual or original substance? Genuinely interested. Charlton !
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BlueJay UK 15 Mar 22 3.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I see Jim Davidson is 'trending' for supposedly "bashing" celebs who have been promoting the idea of taking in refugees (Ukraine) and in turn saying, or rather questioning, would they take in a homeless Veteran. Now, I think either would be a worthy cause of course but would be interested to see other's take on this? I don't know much about JD apart from the usual stereotypes to which he is associated and have seen limited coverage of his comedy, to the extent I have no real comments in any circumstance. Is he spouting 'right-wing' nationalistic, anti-immigration nonsense? Is he just primarily contrasting and raising awareness around the treatment of veterans? Or has he raised a very valid point regarding where people's, or namely 'celebs' priorities lie with regards to virtue signalling as opposed to promoting, engaging or contributing anything of actual or original substance? Genuinely interested. I would certainly say he's within his rights to say it where said celebrities are pushing others to take people in with no intention of doing it themselves. It's a case by case so will be pretty easy to draw a conclusion on, based on that. They certainly typically have more resources and scope for helping than most. It gets a bit boring some always taking the cynical angle though, rather than highlighting, say ,the fact that a massive number of Brits have already sighted up to help. I don't think we need to arbitrarily pit one group against another either (re his homeless veteran comments) because there's a sudden and vast need for homes for those escaping the war, and also a giving act is just that. It's not invalidated by something else vitreous that a person could've done instead that someone decides means more. People should certainly help veterans, and primarily it's the government that sent them off to war that should be stepping up first, and helping with the mental health and homelessness issues, rather than using them them they're convenient and casting them aside when they're not.
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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 15 Mar 22 3.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
I see Jim Davidson is 'trending' for supposedly "bashing" celebs who have been promoting the idea of taking in refugees (Ukraine) and in turn saying, or rather questioning, would they take in a homeless Veteran. Now, I think either would be a worthy cause of course but would be interested to see other's take on this? I don't know much about JD apart from the usual stereotypes to which he is associated and have seen limited coverage of his comedy, to the extent I have no real comments in any circumstance. Is he spouting 'right-wing' nationalistic, anti-immigration nonsense? Is he just primarily contrasting and raising awareness around the treatment of veterans? Or has he raised a very valid point regarding where people's, or namely 'celebs' priorities lie with regards to virtue signalling as opposed to promoting, engaging or contributing anything of actual or original substance? Genuinely interested. He's made a good living out of being extremely outrageous and very funny with it Nick. I think he enjoys making controversial remarks and he hates the modern trend of political correctness. I'm not surprised he expressed a view about so called celebrities taking in Ukranian refugees. He would seriously believe that they could do more good helping our own war veterans. I've met the bloke a couple of times and he's one of those folk who can't help making a joke about everything. But, in private, he's a pussycat who's passion is his motor yacht. My son-in-law is a yacht broker on the Hamble and Davidson is one of his customers. That's how I've met him. Here he is talking about his boat. Edited by Palace Old Geezer (15 Mar 2022 3.24pm)
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BlueJay UK 15 Mar 22 4.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer
He's made a good living out of being extremely outrageous and very funny with it Nick. I think he enjoys making controversial remarks and he hates the modern trend of political correctness. I'm not surprised he expressed a view about so called celebrities taking in Ukranian refugees. He would seriously believe that they could do more good helping our own war veterans. I've met the bloke a couple of times and he's one of those folk who can't help making a joke about everything. But, in private, he's a pussycat who's passion is his motor yacht. My son-in-law is a yacht broker on the Hamble and Davidson is one of his customers. That's how I've met him. Here he is talking about his boat. Edited by Palace Old Geezer (15 Mar 2022 3.24pm) One or two of his wives have been pussycats too. As in licking their wounds..
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the.universal 15 Mar 22 4.35pm | |
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A cnut of the first order.
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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 15 Mar 22 4.49pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
I would certainly say he's within his rights to say it where said celebrities are pushing others to take people in with no intention of doing it themselves. It's a case by case so will be pretty easy to draw a conclusion on, based on that. They certainly typically have more resources and scope for helping than most. It gets a bit boring some always taking the cynical angle though, rather than highlighting, say ,the fact that a massive number of Brits have already sighted up to help. I don't think we need to arbitrarily pit one group against another either (re his homeless veteran comments) because there's a sudden and vast need for homes for those escaping the war, and also a giving act is just that. It's not invalidated by something else vitreous that a person could've done instead that someone decides means more. People should certainly help veterans, and primarily it's the government that sent them off to war that should be stepping up first, and helping with the mental health and homelessness issues, rather than using them them they're convenient and casting them aside when they're not. Unfortunately Blue Jay, that's NEVER happened, STILL isn't happening & WILL never happen, no matter what mob are in power. Vets are still being persecuted because of their involvement in the 'troubles' in NI from 50 years ago. So, housing, taking care of, vets aint gonna happen.
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BlueJay UK 15 Mar 22 5.06pm | |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Unfortunately Blue Jay, that's NEVER happened, STILL isn't happening & WILL never happen, no matter what mob are in power. Vets are still being persecuted because of their involvement in the 'troubles' in NI from 50 years ago. So, housing, taking care of, vets aint gonna happen. I agree, it's shameful. The same in many other countries too, there are countless homeless vets in the States, a country that seems to fast forget about those deemed heroes while they're still serving. Anyone who highlights their plight, including Davidson should certainly be praised for that aspect of their character.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 15 Mar 22 5.57pm | |
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Originally posted by the.universal
A cnut of the first order. Charlton cnut at that!
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 15 Mar 22 6.09pm | |
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Some interesting takes, genuinely interesting for me to read. I would still maintain that my view of Jim Davidson would only be that he has some fame as a comedian, and until I watch his comedy properly I cannot judge him on his work and not knowing or having experience of him as a person cannot comment on that. Apparently he's from Kidbrooke, I have some experience of that geographical region... unfortunately. I thought there were a few more cynical views that could be taken, such as him using it as an excuse to make himself relevant/get some publicity again or if what he was saying was genuine and his point valid despite being made off the back of another cause. I was mainly interested in this given my lack of knowledge, as a young(ish ) man from SE London who enjoys his comedy, in contrast to a lot of younger folk on t'internet who seem to have extraordinary insight into him and his career despite a larger generational gap, the amount of flags, pronouns etc in their 'handles' and the air of a crowd who have lost all sense of identity with the mere notion of comedy as a concept. I did ask my dear old Mum for an opinion, as a woman of Ireland and mid 20th century Peckham, whose succinct and thoughtfully considered words culminated in the verbatim statement: "Never really liked him, always thought he was c**t but to be honest don't really know that much about him"... so that was helpful although not unexpected. I'm currently thinking he's raised a very valid issue just perhaps not in the best way possible, his pantomime villain status not helping his message which does seem genuine, and the subsequent woke, crackhead crowd's responses to it. I'll do a bit more research, provided it doesn't run into dinner/CL games to perhaps gain better insight and evidence for a more informed opinion, grateful for the responses however!
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Mar 22 6.21pm | |
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As a veteran myself, and for the many veterans on here, it is clear that veterans have a very high risk of not getting on well in their lives. It's a shame and perhaps not fully understood. I guess veterans are often young when they join, probably not from privileged backgrounds, are then institutionalised and then find "normal" life hard to handle. This was exacerbated by the drinking and fighting ethos of the armed forces (in my time anyway). What I will say is the modern recruit is not the same. They are not the ready to fight drinkers that we were - and it's probably the right way to be. I know there are plenty on here who understand what I'm talking about.
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