Before i start i am not advocating his dismissal,

Pluses, He can attract players that other Managers cant, and he has instant respect from his players

Minuses, He is very raw to the Job, and in my opinion has made a lot of selection and Substitution errors

Discuss

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He has been in the job 5 minutes -there is so much good news to see in what he has done / remains as trying to do -
He is closer to the action than we are, he sees the players practically every day & will no doubt develop his knowledge about what they can do on the training ground & in competitive games.
The opposition teams are also developing, new managers, new players, tweaking their strengths & style of play -

For me - he is doing well & like most of us going through life , every day is a school day.

If you go to Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea supporters boards after every game you will see peoples opinions on who should have started, who should have come off the bench etc etc - & yet those 3 teams have just about the most experienced managers available.

Big Patrick is doing just fine, really happy with his appointment….

You can look at substitutions in greater detail, but where we have slipped up is poor decisions made by some of the players on the pitch at the time.

I can't believe I'm actually going to respond to this with hopefully a logical and well argued response given your tendencies to be selective in your responses but here goes anyway.

I'll pick just one area that you raise : substitutions.

Earlier in the season at Arsenal when leading 2-1 with less than 10 minutes to go Vieira brought on Tomkins for Edouard and we went to a back 5 to try to protect our lead. I think this was a mistake because we lost any attacking intent and ability to relieve pressure. Result - we draw 2-2.

Last night when leading with less than 10 minutes to go Vieira takes off Olise and replaces him with Benteke, even though he had already replaced Edouard with Mateta essentially leaving us with two strikers and one of those playing out of position on the right (Mateta). I think he did this for 2 reasons:

1. Benteke is good at defending set pieces and corners and would hopefully help against the height of the Brighton centre backs if they push forward in attacking situations.

2. He remembered the Arsenal game and the fact he invited pressure by making too defensive a substitution and Benteke would hopefully help to hold the ball up and relieve pressure. (now we can argue how effective that would be but please don't just pick on this point and ignore the rest of this response - I know you love to do that).

In hindsight (which is great but totally useless) he got both decisions wrong. IMHO at Arsenal he should have brought on another midfielder to help deny space in and around the box and last night he should have brought on Clyne and played 5 at the back with Clyne providing extra cover to Ward who had a really bad game.

On another day and with a bit of luck both decisions would have worked and we'd be saying how inspired his substitutions were. But they didn't. At least last night he tried something different to simply throwing on another defender (like at Arsenal) and hoping for the best.

Edited by Skinnii (15 Jan 2022 11.02am)

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Which ones, in your opinion? Man City is perhaps an obvious one, but which others?

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