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Hutchyeagle Hove 25 Oct 21 9.03am
I along with everyone are enjoying this new look Palace, but feel some of the substitutions have been questionable (I know its all opinions) Going five at the back versus Brighton & Arsenal seemed to change mentality of the players and initiative given to opposing team. Should pack midfield in future imo to see out games (our two centre backs lose a bit of positional sense with an extra added centre back) Saturday , I was also shocked with the removal of Olise and replaced with Wilf. As we all know Wilf is most effective on the left (not upfront back to goal or on the right) Olise was peppering their box with crosses all afternoon , and his removal ended this threat. Eduard is a great signing but he is either a centre forward or a no 10 . Their right back was their for the taking but we failed to target him , which is where Wilf would have worked Also, feel it’s time to play Clyne ( he has played for England !) Ward is honest pro but lacks premier league quality. He stifles our playing out the back. A few times on Saturday Jimmy Mac literally ran over to Ward and took the ball off him, and set up play with a give and go move . We do not need Jimmy to do that removes him from midfield), we just need a more capable technically gifted right back These are just my observations and I am not criticising the regime…Far from it , it is fantastic watching Palace play
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Hove 25 Oct 21 9.03am

I along with everyone are enjoying this new look Palace, but feel some of the substitutions have been questionable (I know its all opinions)
Going five at the back versus Brighton & Arsenal seemed to change mentality of the players and initiative given to opposing team. Should pack midfield in future imo to see out games (our two centre backs lose a bit of positional sense with an extra added centre back)
Saturday , I was also shocked with the removal of Olise and replaced with Wilf. As we all know Wilf is most effective on the left (not upfront back to goal or on the right) Olise was peppering their box with crosses all afternoon , and his removal ended this threat.
Eduard is a great signing but he is either a centre forward or a no 10 . Their right back was their for the taking but we failed to target him , which is where Wilf would have worked
Also, feel it’s time to play Clyne ( he has played for England !) Ward is honest pro but lacks premier league quality. He stifles our playing out the back. A few times on Saturday Jimmy Mac literally ran over to Ward and took the ball off him, and set up play with a give and go move . We do not need Jimmy to do that removes him from midfield), we just need a more capable technically gifted right back
These are just my observations and I am not criticising the regime…Far from it , it is fantastic watching Palace play

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MrRobbo Chaldon 25 Oct 21 10.08am
I think on balance some have worked but some haven't. Sat was a bit of an odd one as he clearly wanted to make attacking subs, and credit to him, he was brave and we basically ended up with 4 strikers on the pitch. Personally I would have kept Olise on, and tried to move OE centrally. But that might have been at the expense of Benteke, that oddly (as discussed on the match threat) seamed to be a magnet to all the chances. So I can 100% understand why he kept him on. I might have also bought Ayew on for Luka to play as a 2nd striker. But we'll all have our own views on what would have worked better. I must admit the Clyne situation feels odd. I feel that he MUST be better than Ward. But thats because of the player I knew he once was. I'm sure if he was better PV would be playing him.
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Chaldon 25 Oct 21 10.08am

I think on balance some have worked but some haven't.

Sat was a bit of an odd one as he clearly wanted to make attacking subs, and credit to him, he was brave and we basically ended up with 4 strikers on the pitch.

Personally I would have kept Olise on, and tried to move OE centrally. But that might have been at the expense of Benteke, that oddly (as discussed on the match threat) seamed to be a magnet to all the chances. So I can 100% understand why he kept him on.

I might have also bought Ayew on for Luka to play as a 2nd striker.

But we'll all have our own views on what would have worked better.

I must admit the Clyne situation feels odd. I feel that he MUST be better than Ward. But thats because of the player I knew he once was. I'm sure if he was better PV would be playing him.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 25 Oct 21 11.32am
Originally posted by MrRobbo I think on balance some have worked but some haven't. Sat was a bit of an odd one as he clearly wanted to make attacking subs, and credit to him, he was brave and we basically ended up with 4 strikers on the pitch. Personally I would have kept Olise on, and tried to move OE centrally. But that might have been at the expense of Benteke, that oddly (as discussed on the match threat) seamed to be a magnet to all the chances. So I can 100% understand why he kept him on. I might have also bought Ayew on for Luka to play as a 2nd striker. But we'll all have our own views on what would have worked better. I must admit the Clyne situation feels odd. I feel that he MUST be better than Ward. But thats because of the player I knew he once was. I'm sure if he was better PV would be playing him. Basically, Clyne isn't the player he was. IMO He hasn't done anything since being back to warrant replacing Ward. Having said that, we do need a more dynamic RB. I suspect the club will wait to see if, this time, Ferguson gets fully fit and can show that he is the RB solution we hoped he would be. If he is then we should get the added bonus of a player who can also function as CB if required. Indeed, for me CB is the most worrying position because IMO only Andersen and Guehi are comfortable on the ball. Tomkins has struggled on the rare occasions he tried to play that way in pre-season; Kouyate lacks adequate ball control for my liking and as for Kelly, he's an unknown quantity these days.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 25 Oct 21 11.32am

Originally posted by MrRobbo

I think on balance some have worked but some haven't.

Sat was a bit of an odd one as he clearly wanted to make attacking subs, and credit to him, he was brave and we basically ended up with 4 strikers on the pitch.

I might have also bought Ayew on for Luka to play as a 2nd striker.

But we'll all have our own views on what would have worked better.

I must admit the Clyne situation feels odd. I feel that he MUST be better than Ward. But thats because of the player I knew he once was. I'm sure if he was better PV would be playing him.

Basically, Clyne isn't the player he was. IMO He hasn't done anything since being back to warrant replacing Ward. Having said that, we do need a more dynamic RB. I suspect the club will wait to see if, this time, Ferguson gets fully fit and can show that he is the RB solution we hoped he would be. If he is then we should get the added bonus of a player who can also function as CB if required.

Indeed, for me CB is the most worrying position because IMO only Andersen and Guehi are comfortable on the ball. Tomkins has struggled on the rare occasions he tried to play that way in pre-season; Kouyate lacks adequate ball control for my liking and as for Kelly, he's an unknown quantity these days.

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aashman12 25 Oct 21 12.43pm
Originally posted by MrRobbo I think on balance some have worked but some haven't. Sat was a bit of an odd one as he clearly wanted to make attacking subs, and credit to him, he was brave and we basically ended up with 4 strikers on the pitch. Personally I would have kept Olise on, and tried to move OE centrally. But that might have been at the expense of Benteke, that oddly (as discussed on the match threat) seamed to be a magnet to all the chances. So I can 100% understand why he kept him on. I might have also bought Ayew on for Luka to play as a 2nd striker. But we'll all have our own views on what would have worked better. I must admit the Clyne situation feels odd. I feel that he MUST be better than Ward. But thats because of the player I knew he once was. I'm sure if he was better PV would be playing him. He's going to have to be flying to be better than ward.
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aashman12

25 Oct 21 12.43pm

Originally posted by MrRobbo

I think on balance some have worked but some haven't.

Sat was a bit of an odd one as he clearly wanted to make attacking subs, and credit to him, he was brave and we basically ended up with 4 strikers on the pitch.

I might have also bought Ayew on for Luka to play as a 2nd striker.

But we'll all have our own views on what would have worked better.

I must admit the Clyne situation feels odd. I feel that he MUST be better than Ward. But thats because of the player I knew he once was. I'm sure if he was better PV would be playing him.

He's going to have to be flying to be better than ward.

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