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Maine Eagle USA 17 Oct 21 9.32pm | |
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More and more of these votes on masking etc are descending into violence, threats and angry confrontations. I try to watch right wing and left wing media, and read the same, and I can only conclude that right wing protagonists generally resort to violence and intimidation much quicker than liberals, if the liberals do at all. A study by the center for strategic and international studies, about domestic terrorism, showed: Since 2015, right-wing extremists have been involved in 267 plots or attacks and 91 fatalities, the data shows. At the same time, attacks and plots ascribed to far-left views accounted for 66 incidents leading to 19 deaths. Why is this? Why is the right responsible for vastly higher amounts of domestic terrorism? Why are conservative parents at school board meetings far more likely to shout and threaten?
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Stirlingsays 17 Oct 21 10.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
More and more of these votes on masking etc are descending into violence, threats and angry confrontations. I try to watch right wing and left wing media, and read the same, and I can only conclude that right wing protagonists generally resort to violence and intimidation much quicker than liberals, if the liberals do at all. A study by the center for strategic and international studies, about domestic terrorism, showed: Since 2015, right-wing extremists have been involved in 267 plots or attacks and 91 fatalities, the data shows. At the same time, attacks and plots ascribed to far-left views accounted for 66 incidents leading to 19 deaths. Why is this? Why is the right responsible for vastly higher amounts of domestic terrorism? Why are conservative parents at school board meetings far more likely to shout and threaten? I can only conclude that those statistics didn't include Antifa and BLM violence in 18 months of rioting. As for angry confrontations, from your posts I'd always assumed you were all for them. All this must leave you chomping at the bit to get you some redneck, so what's not to like. Regardless Mainey, whichever way you cut it the US is headed for a split, said it for years and it's only recently that a majority are reaching the same conclusion. Personally I'd much rather it was a peaceful divorce that maintained close enough relations but unfortunately as always there will be those who won't be able to accept the inevitable and will look to force people to remain in an unhappy union. As a matter of interest what right wing media do you watch? Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Oct 2021 10.06pm)
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georgenorman 17 Oct 21 10.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
More and more of these votes on masking etc are descending into violence, threats and angry confrontations. I try to watch right wing and left wing media, and read the same, and I can only conclude that right wing protagonists generally resort to violence and intimidation much quicker than liberals, if the liberals do at all. A study by the center for strategic and international studies, about domestic terrorism, showed: Since 2015, right-wing extremists have been involved in 267 plots or attacks and 91 fatalities, the data shows. At the same time, attacks and plots ascribed to far-left views accounted for 66 incidents leading to 19 deaths. Why is this? Why is the right responsible for vastly higher amounts of domestic terrorism? Why are conservative parents at school board meetings far more likely to shout and threaten? Is it because the far-left are too busy posting drivel on English football forums?
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cryrst The garden of England 17 Oct 21 10.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
More and more of these votes on masking etc are descending into violence, threats and angry confrontations. I try to watch right wing and left wing media, and read the same, and I can only conclude that right wing protagonists generally resort to violence and intimidation much quicker than liberals, if the liberals do at all. A study by the center for strategic and international studies, about domestic terrorism, showed: Since 2015, right-wing extremists have been involved in 267 plots or attacks and 91 fatalities, the data shows. At the same time, attacks and plots ascribed to far-left views accounted for 66 incidents leading to 19 deaths. Why is this? Why is the right responsible for vastly higher amounts of domestic terrorism? Why are conservative parents at school board meetings far more likely to shout and threaten? Who determines if its right or left wing terrorism and not mental health issues. Goose and gander etc.
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Teddy Eagle 17 Oct 21 10.48pm | |
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Chicago must have a really bad right wing problem. Surprising in a city that hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1927.
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Maine Eagle USA 18 Oct 21 1.03am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I can only conclude that those statistics didn't include Antifa and BLM violence in 18 months of rioting. As for angry confrontations, from your posts I'd always assumed you were all for them. All this must leave you chomping at the bit to get you some redneck, so what's not to like. Regardless Mainey, whichever way you cut it the US is headed for a split, said it for years and it's only recently that a majority are reaching the same conclusion. Personally I'd much rather it was a peaceful divorce that maintained close enough relations but unfortunately as always there will be those who won't be able to accept the inevitable and will look to force people to remain in an unhappy union. As a matter of interest what right wing media do you watch? Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Oct 2021 10.06pm) It does include all major incidents classed as domestic terrorism. One America news is quite a favorite and I keep tabs on what the 3 desperados on fox say. Steve Bannons podcast is great for laughs on a long drive to the mountains. Breitbart is another. Stirley you have completely failed to address the question here. I think you know in your heart of hearts that those statistics are correct. The question is why?
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Maine Eagle USA 18 Oct 21 1.06am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Who determines if its right or left wing terrorism and not mental health issues. Goose and gander etc. The chairman is a Republican. They are a neutral organization. I would imagine deaths resulting from the January 6th insurrection would be classed as caused by a right wing vigilante mob, as they were caused by said mob, yes.
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Stirlingsays 18 Oct 21 1.40am | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
It does include all major incidents classed as domestic terrorism. One America news is quite a favorite and I keep tabs on what the 3 desperados on fox say. Steve Bannons podcast is great for laughs on a long drive to the mountains. Breitbart is another. Stirley you have completely failed to address the question here. I think you know in your heart of hearts that those statistics are correct. The question is why? I doubt they are Mainey as I don't know what gets included and excluded within the statistics. There are of course attacks from the right....hell even the Buddhists attack people. But of course the numbers matter and are a reflection of what's going on underneath. If you listen to Bannon then fair enough, I think that would give you an accurate insight into a large part of grass roots republicanism. I like watching Jimmy Dore and Russell Brand. I think the main reasons for violence....political violence that is comes down to increasing polarization and view bubbles....social media is a significant part of it...also the atomised way that modern people live their lives plays a part. Here's a link to an excellent video on the worrying trends in our lives that have led to increasing levels of polarization and atomization. And refreshingly it isn't political. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Oct 2021 1.41am)
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Maine Eagle USA 18 Oct 21 3.16am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I doubt they are Mainey as I don't know what gets included and excluded within the statistics. There are of course attacks from the right....hell even the Buddhists attack people. But of course the numbers matter and are a reflection of what's going on underneath. If you listen to Bannon then fair enough, I think that would give you an accurate insight into a large part of grass roots republicanism. I like watching Jimmy Dore and Russell Brand. I think the main reasons for violence....political violence that is comes down to increasing polarization and view bubbles....social media is a significant part of it...also the atomised way that modern people live their lives plays a part. Here's a link to an excellent video on the worrying trends in our lives that have led to increasing levels of polarization and atomization. And refreshingly it isn't political. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Oct 2021 1.41am) The statistics are solid, it shows a massive majority of domestic terrorist incidents are perpetrated by right wing scum. Polarization is a massive factor in this, but if both sides are polarized from each other, the general numbers of terrorist incidents would be similar, alas they are not. This goes down to what attracts people to be conservative or liberal in their way of thinking, how this is generational, and the general types of people who are in those camps, education level, social positions etc. Trump has also mainstreamed bullying, threats, name calling and physical violence, and as such his mindless followers now think they can do whatever they want. January 6th is a prime example. Edited by Maine Eagle (18 Oct 2021 3.16am)
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cryrst The garden of England 18 Oct 21 6.09am | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
The statistics are solid, it shows a massive majority of domestic terrorist incidents are perpetrated by right wing scum. Polarization is a massive factor in this, but if both sides are polarized from each other, the general numbers of terrorist incidents would be similar, alas they are not. This goes down to what attracts people to be conservative or liberal in their way of thinking, how this is generational, and the general types of people who are in those camps, education level, social positions etc. Trump has also mainstreamed bullying, threats, name calling and physical violence, and as such his mindless followers now think they can do whatever they want. January 6th is a prime example. Edited by Maine Eagle (18 Oct 2021 3.16am) You have literally classed every conservative as scum.
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georgenorman 18 Oct 21 7.46am | |
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Stirley you have completely failed to address the question here. I think you know in your heart of hearts that those statistics are correct. The question is why? Is it because the left-wing crypto-communists are so incompoetent that they would have trouble blowing up a balloon?
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Matov 18 Oct 21 11.51am | |
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Maybe matters have moved beyond the ability to be resolved by conversation? Conventional wisdom has it that compromise is for the best but given why a lot of these parents are quite rightly disgusted by what these school boards are imposing on their kids, with zero willingness to listen to their objections, then perhaps violence is inevitable? Maybe even for the best given that issues need deciding in a decisive way? Violence does work on occasion. Hitler was stopped by violence. The invasion of the Falklands was resolved by violence. It serves a purpose. Even the poll tax riots worked. The Czars in Russia did not step down by way of compromise. The Left seek to impose wide ranging changes on how we even define what men and women are. And I do mean impose. Look to make it a crime to even use somebody's name that they were christened with. I am at the point now where I simply cannot see how this struggle with the Progressive Left can be resolved without violence being involved. They clearly have no respect for the democratic process (look at Brexit and their desperate attempts to subvert what was perhaps the single greatest expression of the democratic principle in my life-time) and they actively cheered on huge amounts of violence by the likes of BLM and Antifa. They literally want to DESTROY traditional concepts like family. A line in the sand has been crossed by them first. This needs settling because it is impossible to live collectively on the terms the Progressive Left seek to impose on us all. People need to wake up to that.
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