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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 07 Apr 21 3.39pm

Seems like our European neighbours were right to have doubts on the safety of the Oxford vaccine, their due dilligence seems to have being the correct way to go, it wasn"t just brexit revenge, I hope Boris and Jacob don"t have shares in it, let alone nanny! Under 30"s advised to go with the us or european vaccines, phiser and moderna, they are stopping giving to middle aged people in europe, let alone the under 30"s that we are stopping, or advising! Its probably a lesson to boris, don"t treat eveything as a game, a race out of the blocks, just to look good, do some testing before you release a cure on to the great british public!I"m glad i got the european jab, but it was just good luck! Telling people at risk not to take second dose of Oxford jab right now, but go for the european or american version.Van tan looks like he wants to cry, having to front this tv conference, the lies caught up with him eventually!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 07 Apr 21 3.58pm

Even Canada are not giving the Oxford jab to under 60"s, so it"s not just our european friends, wheres boris when we want him on the chair?

 

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silvertop Flag Portishead 07 Apr 21 4.25pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

19 deaths from 20 million doses - and we still don't know whether they were likely to get a blood clot without the dose.

31% risk of blood clot from the severe form of the disease.

You do the arithmetic.

Politics/economics feeding off the sort of mass hysteria that causes people to wear masks in the street, or when driving alone in their own car!

This is not thalidomide. I have had one AZ dose and will have the second from the same source in June.

I suspect there is a higher risk of getting an infection from the needle than getting blood clots; and that doesn't matter which juice they pump you with.

 

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topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 07 Apr 21 4.54pm Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

If the chances of death from a blood clot are 1 in a million, people would be mad to tun down the chance of vaccination. However it is their body so it is their choice.

I'm quite happy for Canada or Europe not to want to take the risk as this should mean more for the rest of the world, including the UK.

 


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Runningman Flag Keston 07 Apr 21 5.27pm Send a Private Message to Runningman Add Runningman as a friend

So basically you’ve much more chance of having a car accident on the way to the vaxx centre. This is an unacceptable risk and I think everyone should be vaxxed in their own homes. What are the government playing at.

 

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Goal Machine Flag The Cronx 07 Apr 21 5.33pm Send a Private Message to Goal Machine Add Goal Machine as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Seems like our European neighbours were right to have doubts on the safety of the Oxford vaccine, their due dilligence seems to have being the correct way to go, it wasn"t just brexit revenge, I hope Boris and Jacob don"t have shares in it, let alone nanny! Under 30"s advised to go with the us or european vaccines, phiser and moderna, they are stopping giving to middle aged people in europe, let alone the under 30"s that we are stopping, or advising! Its probably a lesson to boris, don"t treat eveything as a game, a race out of the blocks, just to look good, do some testing before you release a cure on to the great british public!I"m glad i got the european jab, but it was just good luck! Telling people at risk not to take second dose of Oxford jab right now, but go for the european or american version.Van tan looks like he wants to cry, having to front this tv conference, the lies caught up with him eventually!

Ridiculous. There’s more chance of killing yourself in an accident on the way to get the AZ jab, than the chances of getting a fatal blood clot from the AZ jab.

The UK is so far ahead of Europe and well done to Boris for that. If they don’t want AZ then great, more for the UK. They can continue to sit at home worrying about the 0.00001% chance of getting a blood clot whilst covid continues to spiral out of control whilst we can sit in the pubs having a beer talking about how stupid they are.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Apr 21 5.34pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

More research is being done so for now it is a sensible decision. It is possible that they can narrow down the factors that cause it which may or may not include the vaccine.

Interestingly the EMA is still saying it can be used.

There is no such thing as a safe drug you would not give many over the counter medications to children.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 07 Apr 21 5.56pm

Originally posted by Badger11

More research is being done so for now it is a sensible decision. It is possible that they can narrow down the factors that cause it which may or may not include the vaccine.

Interestingly the EMA is still saying it can be used.

There is no such thing as a safe drug you would not give many over the counter medications to children.


This is the correct reply Badger! It is preferable for everyone to get the jab,I would if i hadn"t already got the pfiser, its just the world beating, first in the race, gold medal, jingoism that these CONS have to give out every time, and posters and CONS blaming europe for questioning the safety , that erks me. Maybe any poster that said europe were just getting brexit revenge, who have now been proved right, will do the decent thing and say they were wrong.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 07 Apr 21 6.13pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


This is the correct reply Badger! It is preferable for everyone to get the jab,I would if i hadn"t already got the pfiser, its just the world beating, first in the race, gold medal, jingoism that these CONS have to give out every time, and posters and CONS blaming europe for questioning the safety , that erks me. Maybe any poster that said europe were just getting brexit revenge, who have now been proved right, will do the decent thing and say they were wrong.

Have they been proved right? TBF CP anything CON or Brexit eras you

Edited by Spiderman (07 Apr 2021 6.13pm)

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Apr 21 6.22pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


How many of these unfortunate people would have died without having the vaccine?


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Apr 21 6.27pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


This is the correct reply Badger! It is preferable for everyone to get the jab,I would if i hadn"t already got the pfiser, its just the world beating, first in the race, gold medal, jingoism that these CONS have to give out every time, and posters and CONS blaming europe for questioning the safety , that erks me. Maybe any poster that said europe were just getting brexit revenge, who have now been proved right, will do the decent thing and say they were wrong.

Sure but let's not forget it was the political leaders and EU seniors doing the criticising so Boris and co as politicians were entitled to bite back at them. politician versus politician.

In fairness the EMA has been quite measured in it's response but that gets lost amongst the idiotic utterance of President Macron and Madame President Useless.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 07 Apr 21 6.30pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


How many of these unfortunate people would have died without having the vaccine?


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How many unfortunate people wouldn"t have died of covid, if boris hadn"t gone against european advice and locked down the day after the brexit celebrations in parliament square is a better question ted,instead of telling us to go to the pub and spread around, only to u turn a week later and say stay in or you will be fined!

 

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