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Sportyteacher London 25 Jan 21 10.09am | |
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Daily Telegraph reporting exclusive that Frank Lampard will be removed from his managerial position at Chelsea FC: [Link] Bonkers decision if true with another turn of the carousel for managerial success at a club with a relatively inexperienced group of young players combined with foreign stars learning to conform to the pace and style of Premiership football.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jan 21 10.32am | |
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There are some 'Big' managers available such as Tuchel and Allegri. Edited by Willo (25 Jan 2021 10.43am)
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 25 Jan 21 10.36am | |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
Daily Telegraph reporting exclusive that Frank Lampard will be removed from his managerial position at Chelsea FC: [Link] Bonkers decision if true with another turn of the carousel for managerial success at a club with a relatively inexperienced group of young players combined with foreign stars learning to conform to the pace and style of Premiership football. I think he only got the job in the first place because of Chelsea's transfer ban. Top Manager's expect a significant transfer kitty to be available. He probably overachieved last season using the resources that he had. Now he's spent over £200m on players that aren't gelling or performing.
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AERO 25 Jan 21 10.51am | |
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Although obviously a risk ,would have him at Palace .
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 25 Jan 21 11.01am | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
I think he only got the job in the first place because of Chelsea's transfer ban. Top Manager's expect a significant transfer kitty to be available. He probably overachieved last season using the resources that he had. Now he's spent over £200m on players that aren't gelling or performing. He's gone today. Tuchel to come in. His defensive record, anywhere, is woeful, and couldn't compete against top 6 teams. Great article from The Athletic on all this, paywall so posted some highlights below... sounds like a political nightmare
"The problem was, the manager didn’t talk to the players — well only the ones he liked,” one such source explains. “I know of players who weren’t in the team that didn’t hear from him for many months. That’s very frustrating for a player because you don’t know what you have to do to do better, what the manager is thinking. It’s crazy." "There was also a feeling that as form started to dip that the regular changes to the starting line-up prevented players from building a system and confidence. The squad, for example, could all see how talented Werner is but were horrified to see the confidence drain out of him as he was put in and out of the starting XI." "Lampard was accused in some quarters of working players too hard, dating back to the preparations in June, ahead of last season getting back under way following the three-month postponement. Indeed, despite Chelsea’s fixture list this season regularly involving matches in midweek as well as the weekend, the 42-year-old was spotted still putting on intense drills. As one individual remarked: “There was a worry that not only were Chelsea players getting exhausted but it would take a toll with people getting more injuries.” “From what I can tell, he felt it was like pissing against the wind. He experienced difficult relationships with a lot of people and wasn’t always sure who he could trust. He would have a conversation with one person but wasn’t sure what they’d be saying about him afterwards. He found the politics hard, a constant battle.” “When things are going wrong at Chelsea, you will also find there are many people that will be happy to blame anything but their own area. It is something Lampard was trying to change, but it was going to take time. It is a deeply sat problem that has been there for many years." "A facet against Lampard was the defensive record last season — they conceded 54 times, which was the worst record in the top half of the Premier League. Only three teams conceded more from set pieces (15). The additions of Chilwell, Silva and Mendy have seen an improvement in both departments despite the recent downturn."
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kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 25 Jan 21 11.39am | |
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Originally posted by AERO
Although obviously a risk ,would have him at Palace . big risk.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Jan 21 12.03pm | |
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Originally posted by AERO
Although obviously a risk ,would have him at Palace . I suspect some supporters might see the value of Lampard teaming up with John Terry at our club.
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Harpo Oxfordshire 25 Jan 21 12.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
I suspect some supporters might see the value of Lampard teaming up with John Terry at our club. Suddenly Roy looks the perfect candidate.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Jan 21 1.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
I suspect some supporters might see the value of Lampard teaming up with John Terry at our club. No thanks! In all fairness though, would love them as coaches, but not managers.
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Eaglecoops CR3 25 Jan 21 2.05pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
No thanks! In all fairness though, would love them as coaches, but not managers. I’d love them in our team let alone as coaches.
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Frickin Saweet South Cronx 25 Jan 21 2.17pm | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
He's gone today. Tuchel to come in. His defensive record, anywhere, is woeful, and couldn't compete against top 6 teams. Great article from The Athletic on all this, paywall so posted some highlights below... sounds like a political nightmare
"The problem was, the manager didn’t talk to the players — well only the ones he liked,” one such source explains. “I know of players who weren’t in the team that didn’t hear from him for many months. That’s very frustrating for a player because you don’t know what you have to do to do better, what the manager is thinking. It’s crazy." "There was also a feeling that as form started to dip that the regular changes to the starting line-up prevented players from building a system and confidence. The squad, for example, could all see how talented Werner is but were horrified to see the confidence drain out of him as he was put in and out of the starting XI." "Lampard was accused in some quarters of working players too hard, dating back to the preparations in June, ahead of last season getting back under way following the three-month postponement. Indeed, despite Chelsea’s fixture list this season regularly involving matches in midweek as well as the weekend, the 42-year-old was spotted still putting on intense drills. As one individual remarked: “There was a worry that not only were Chelsea players getting exhausted but it would take a toll with people getting more injuries.” “From what I can tell, he felt it was like pissing against the wind. He experienced difficult relationships with a lot of people and wasn’t always sure who he could trust. He would have a conversation with one person but wasn’t sure what they’d be saying about him afterwards. He found the politics hard, a constant battle.” “When things are going wrong at Chelsea, you will also find there are many people that will be happy to blame anything but their own area. It is something Lampard was trying to change, but it was going to take time. It is a deeply sat problem that has been there for many years." "A facet against Lampard was the defensive record last season — they conceded 54 times, which was the worst record in the top half of the Premier League. Only three teams conceded more from set pieces (15). The additions of Chilwell, Silva and Mendy have seen an improvement in both departments despite the recent downturn." a big 'IF' all of that is true I wouldn't want him at Palace now as his management methods clearly need work to get the best out of players. Could be another FDB
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Eaglecoops CR3 25 Jan 21 4.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
a big 'IF' all of that is true I wouldn't want him at Palace now as his management methods clearly need work to get the best out of players. Could be another FDB Agreed. The transfer of abilities from fabulous player to astute manager don’t always follow. One thing that all the top managers have is good man management skills. Getting 11 preening prima donnas to play together is not always that easy and even more difficult during periods of poor form. Utd were so good under Ferguson because he knew exactly when to bollok them or put an arm around them. Cloughie was the same. All I see from Lampard is he is given respect for being a great ex player, however once that runs out and he needs to earn his money as a manager he has come up short. He may be back but I think he needs to step down a level or two and earn his place at the top.
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