Been drinking got me thinking can we absolve the union and rebuild hadrians wall and watch Scotland burn Sturgeon is starting to get on my tits do we really need this united kingdom s***e when really its England and Wales with Scotland poncing and some overtly delicate s*** in Northern Ireland that we don't need or want. Discuss just thought I'd throw it out there as an idea.

English independence? England is more like East Germany used to be under communist rule and the stasi, ask your local tory MP if that is not so?

And apart from the Home Counties the old satellite communist countries are now better off than we are.

English independence means lords and serfs, 20% more land owned by the rich in the since 2018, trillions of debt left to a future generation, an emerging police state.

In Stalin's Russia groups of 15 had to have special permission, here it is 6 and you would be arrested.

well it was you english that invaded scotland, wales and ireland and nicked all the land.

and now you are having second thoughts ? oh boo hoo.

your desire for English independence is hilarious considering all the places that needed fight to get their independence from you....

Canada, india, pakistan, israel, the US, ireland, australia, new zealand....

you sound like a longterm chain smoker whinging about the unfairness of having crocked lungs.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Common mistake. The history of our islands is that we all invaded each other eventually the English came out on top so we are guilty of being better at it than the rest.

Edited by Badger11 (27 Sep 2020 12.16pm)

One more point

If the native English wish to survive as the majority in their own country they have to undertake measures to ensure that and fast....just as Israel did recently.

Otherwise the English are going the way of Tibetans in Tibet.

But unlike the Tibetans, the English did this to themselves...or rather let their elites do it to them....they never asked the public of course.

So, thinking in terms of 'English' now is almost quaint....a train that left the station decades ago.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Sep 2020 12.31pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I must admit I'm surprised to read this post from you.

Firstly there was no 'Scotland' or Wales existing as an independent country from England back then. These lands were all in play.....So you are guilty of historical revisionism here.

The English also won wars against invading armies looking to take the country...which included the Scottish I might add.

You appear to attack the English for winning wars rather than losing them.

Also out of the countries you listed none of them officially fought us for independence other than the US.

Also you seem to think it legitimate that these countries gained independence yet don't think it legitimate for the English because of what elites did hundreds of years ago?

Are you a leftist now?

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Sep 2020 12.38pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)