not all our players can be that bad.no matter what team he plays its the same negative performance.in the 3 years he's been with us not one of our players has improved.2 games in the writings on the wall

Get a grip, we won our opening game, we’ve made positive signings give it some time,regardless of what you wish for in this warped idea let’s play ‘Brazil’ style football.. we will be safe for another year in the prem under Hodgson like we have been in all of the 3 he’s been here.

No need to throw the toys out the pram cause we’ve been nocked out the man city cup which we would have got knocked out (to city ) next round anyways.

That was a terrible game, but it is clear from our performances in this cup in recent times that we don't really want to be in it. Luka's penalty at the end was the equivalent of the boy picking his ball up and saying "right, that's enough, I'm going home for my tea". No stand out performances good or bad. Only highlight was Eze's cheeky penalty. Roy seemed to indiacte post-match that what little interest evaporated as soon as they announced when the City fixture would be played.

If we play like last season over the next few months then with the new signings we have I too would be questioning the decision to keep Roy at the helm, but not after tonight, and certainly not after Southampton when there were signs we are going to be more of a threat.

P.s. could the players all chip in and refund us our tenner?

Don’t forget the next round is on Thursday week, away and we are home to Everton on the Saturday

We’ve made some decent signing’s. Zaha’s looked good pre-season, and we won our opening league fixture (which is more important), so I’d quit stamping your feet like a giant toddler.

"Look at that. Accident blackspot? These aren't accidents! They're throwing themselves into the road gladly! Throwing themselves into the road to escape all this hideousness!"

Absolutely. It's seems ludicrous to me to judge Hodgson on one performance in the Mickey Mouse Cup, especially given our next fixture in it would have been against the perennial holders less than 48 hours before we are due to play an important PL game.

We need to see how things look at New Year when we are scheduled to have played 16 league games (Covid permitting). By then we should have a good idea of how we are likely to do during the rest of the season, whether there have been any changes to our style of play and whether we think RH is doing a decent job with the resources at his disposal (there's still 3 weeks of the transfer window in which there could be incomings and outgoings).

I'm neither pro nor anti RH, just a Palace fan who recognizes pragmatism when it's needed.