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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 10 Aug 20 9.54am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

was just hopipng for opinions in the light of the UK giving £25M to Beruit, when the UK has many thousands of homeless. So should charity begin at home ?

In the 1980's there was major exploitation of 'Aid'. Some saw it as bribery for commercial contracts. I know Africa used to accept hundreds of tonnes of used car tyres to be buried, as in the 1980's the UK was still not capable of recycling them.

Then the Bhopal / Union Carbide disaster.
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The only reason this foreign investment was given, is because India had no H&S regulations at the time. Labour was cheap too.


thoughts anyone ?


 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Aug 20 10.16am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I have no problem with emergency aid, I believe several thousand locals are now homeless due to the blast.

They are also housing over 1m Syrian refugees.

Like most people it's the corruption I object to.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Aug 20 10.21am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

25 mil wouldn't be much considering the current wastage. Hopefully, it will be used properly - it won't be checked on. A lot of the money going to Africa is simply bribes. Several times, when anyone bothered tracing the money, it was spent on such necessities as Champagne and Rolls Royces.
I guess with the narrative you are starting with, you could surmise that we really don't care that much about our own people or about foreign people either. Definitely much more was raised for rebuilding Notre Dame, than this Beirut explosion, for example. Although, you might get a few new charity programmes on the tele yet.

 


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dannyboy1978 Flag 10 Aug 20 10.49am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

25 mil wouldn't be much considering the current wastage. Hopefully, it will be used properly - it won't be checked on. A lot of the money going to Africa is simply bribes. Several times, when anyone bothered tracing the money, it was spent on such necessities as Champagne and Rolls Royces.
I guess with the narrative you are starting with, you could surmise that we really don't care that much about our own people or about foreign people either. Definitely much more was raised for rebuilding Notre Dame, than this Beirut explosion, for example. Although, you might get a few new charity programmes on the tele yet.

I feel it's a job for the UN, I'm not sure what they ever do

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 10 Aug 20 12.40pm

Originally posted by Badger11

I have no problem with emergency aid, I believe several thousand locals are now homeless due to the blast.

They are also housing over 1m Syrian refugees.

Like most people it's the corruption I object to.

I tend to agree. And it's as much of a gesture really, not a huge amount. Lots of these actions grease the wheels of commerce of trade further down the line too. Better to have decent international relations than to develop a reputation for not having a care for those in need other than on our own doorstep. As with anyone it's all about finding the right balance.

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 10 Aug 20 9.45pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Where are the anti Hezbollah protests.
They are the power in lebanon not the government.
Is this Showing how attached to terrorists most of the people appear to be? Just an observation.

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 11 Aug 20 10.53am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

I think whilst the UK is relatively affluent, giving money away needs some explanation/accountability.
For example, the UK gives India Foreign Aid, and they have their own space program.
If it's bribes for business, then fair enough. But if Aid is being channeled into (for example) the arms trade, or a space program, shouldn't this be questioned ?

I'd like more transparency

Especially when ex-forces members (with PTSD) make up a not insignificant amount of the homeless people on our streets.
Should we not be getting out own $hIt together first ?

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (11 Aug 2020 11.20am)

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 11 Aug 20 11.05am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Where are the anti Hezbollah protests.
They are the power in lebanon not the government.
Is this Showing how attached to terrorists most of the people appear to be? Just an observation.

In this country "brave" people think they are entitled to break the law and abuse the police, with no physical response, just because their cause is right

Hezbollah are a terrorist organisation any anti protests will not be met with dancing policemen more like an AK47 up your backside.

I can't say I blame the people of Lebanon they are an occupied country in all but name and not just by one power.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Aug 20 10.37pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I think whilst the UK is relatively affluent, giving money away needs some explanation/accountability.
For example, the UK gives India Foreign Aid, and they have their own space program.
If it's bribes for business, then fair enough. But if Aid is being channeled into (for example) the arms trade, or a space program, shouldn't this be questioned ?

I'd like more transparency

Especially when ex-forces members (with PTSD) make up a not insignificant amount of the homeless people on our streets.
Should we not be getting out own $hIt together first ?

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (11 Aug 2020 11.20am)

It's disgraceful how the ex forces are treated.

 


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