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oldstand Christchurch 17 Jan 20 8.22pm
Did we not qualify for Europe ?
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Christchurch 17 Jan 20 8.22pm

Did we not qualify for Europe ?

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The Martini Police London 17 Jan 20 8.25pm
English clubs were banned
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The Martini Police

London 17 Jan 20 8.25pm

English clubs were banned

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Palace 1979 Surrey 17 Jan 20 8.28pm
Scousers fault! Some people are like Slinkies … not really good for anything, but you can’t help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs.
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Surrey 17 Jan 20 8.28pm

Scousers fault!

Some people are like Slinkies … not really good for anything, but you can’t help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs.

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cryrst The garden of England 17 Jan 20 8.28pm
Yup Because the bin dippers tore it up. We won the ZDS though 4-1 AET v everton. I was there COYP.
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The garden of England 17 Jan 20 8.28pm

Yup
Because the bin dippers tore it up.
We won the ZDS though 4-1 AET v everton.
I was there COYP.

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kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 17 Jan 20 8.40pm
i believe Norwich lost out also? ironically the scousers f***ed it for English clubs rucking at the euro final (with juve?) and sadly many deaths(oppose supporters only I think) apart from losing out on Europe proper, we could have won the league thatyear. the impossible dream. Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents? Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.
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Sussex, ex-Cronx. 17 Jan 20 8.40pm

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i believe Norwich lost out also?
ironically the scousers f***ed it for English clubs rucking at the euro final (with juve?)
and sadly many deaths(oppose supporters only I think)
apart from losing out on Europe proper, we could have won the league thatyear.
the impossible dream.

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 17 Jan 20 8.53pm
its obviously “f***s luck” that meant we never played in europe, what could have been. nobody other than us remembers the zds cup. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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its obviously “f***s luck” that meant we never played in europe, what could have been.

nobody other than us remembers the zds cup.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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Badger11 Beckenham 17 Jan 20 8.55pm
Originally posted by The Martini Police English clubs were banned To be precise Liverpool were banned the rest of us were allowed back in at the start of that season. Then at some point during that season UEFA allowed the scousers back in which deprived us of our place. One more point
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Beckenham 17 Jan 20 8.55pm

Originally posted by The Martini Police

English clubs were banned

To be precise Liverpool were banned the rest of us were allowed back in at the start of that season. Then at some point during that season UEFA allowed the scousers back in which deprived us of our place.

One more point

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 17 Jan 20 9.05pm
English teams were banned from European competition in 1986 following the Liverpool vs Juventus final in Brussels. In those days there was the European Cup, UEFA Cup and Cup Winners Cup. I think teams finishing 2nd, 3rd and 4th entered the UEFA Cup. On lifting the ban around 1990 I think UEFA only allowed one UEFA Cup place for English teams - for the team finishing second and sadly that was Liverpool who only finished a few points above us IIRC. Arsenal won the Championship in 1991 and Leeds United (who finished below us) went on to win it in 1992. There's a school of thought that with a bit of investment that could have been us but unfortunately Noades wasn't willing and the team broke up - not helped by some crass comments he made about the black players in a TV documentary.
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English teams were banned from European competition in 1986 following the Liverpool vs Juventus final in Brussels.

In those days there was the European Cup, UEFA Cup and Cup Winners Cup. I think teams finishing 2nd, 3rd and 4th entered the UEFA Cup.

On lifting the ban around 1990 I think UEFA only allowed one UEFA Cup place for English teams - for the team finishing second and sadly that was Liverpool who only finished a few points above us IIRC.

Arsenal won the Championship in 1991 and Leeds United (who finished below us) went on to win it in 1992. There's a school of thought that with a bit of investment that could have been us but unfortunately Noades wasn't willing and the team broke up - not helped by some crass comments he made about the black players in a TV documentary.

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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 17 Jan 20 9.39pm
Originally posted by Badger11 To be precise Liverpool were banned the rest of us were allowed back in at the start of that season. Then at some point during that season UEFA allowed the scousers back in which deprived us of our place. I seem to remember it was the rule that if liverpool finished in the top 2, as there were only 2 places for europe, the third team would take their place, nobody thinking it would be us, when we did, the fa or uefa changed the rule that liverpool, who had served 5 years of their 8 year ban, would be let off the final few years and could qualifly for our deserved place! Ron noades did try and get all the first division clubs chairmen to back him in a campaign for justice, but nobody wanted to upset the fa or uefa, so we missed out, makes you wonder why we bothered in those days, was so corrupt, nothing compared to in scotland thou, with rangers having everyone in there pocket, refs and fa! Thats why i like var, it can only work for the likes of us against the glamour teams, so wouldn"t moan to much about waiting a minute or two for a decision, we might of been 1-0 up early on in the fa cup final the other year with it!
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Any european country i fancy! 17 Jan 20 9.39pm

Originally posted by Badger11

I seem to remember it was the rule that if liverpool finished in the top 2, as there were only 2 places for europe, the third team would take their place, nobody thinking it would be us, when we did, the fa or uefa changed the rule that liverpool, who had served 5 years of their 8 year ban, would be let off the final few years and could qualifly for our deserved place! Ron noades did try and get all the first division clubs chairmen to back him in a campaign for justice, but nobody wanted to upset the fa or uefa, so we missed out, makes you wonder why we bothered in those days, was so corrupt, nothing compared to in scotland thou, with rangers having everyone in there pocket, refs and fa! Thats why i like var, it can only work for the likes of us against the glamour teams, so wouldn"t moan to much about waiting a minute or two for a decision, we might of been 1-0 up early on in the fa cup final the other year with it!

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Co Derry Palace maghera co derry 17 Jan 20 10.02pm
UEFA decided when they banned English clubs after Heysel in '85, that when they allowed English clubs back in, Liverpool would have to serve an extra 5 year ban. In 1990 Man U won the Cup (beating us) so they were allowed into the Cup Winners Cup (which they won), but League winners Liverpool were not allowed back in, as per the original decision. At some point during the next season, some clever clog in UEFA decided that the ban on Liverpool could be lifted too. So that when Liverpool finished 2nd that season they were allowed into the UEFA Cup at the expense of the team that came 3rd (Palace). I have always felt that if we had secured European football then, Ian Wright wouldn't have left when he did and the club wouldn't have gone on the slide that saw them get relegated in '93. It still annoys me.
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UEFA decided when they banned English clubs after Heysel in '85, that when they allowed English clubs back in, Liverpool would have to serve an extra 5 year ban.
In 1990 Man U won the Cup (beating us) so they were allowed into the Cup Winners Cup (which they won), but League winners Liverpool were not allowed back in, as per the original decision.
At some point during the next season, some clever clog in UEFA decided that the ban on Liverpool could be lifted too. So that when Liverpool finished 2nd that season they were allowed into the UEFA Cup at the expense of the team that came 3rd (Palace).
I have always felt that if we had secured European football then, Ian Wright wouldn't have left when he did and the club wouldn't have gone on the slide that saw them get relegated in '93.
It still annoys me.

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crvenaeagle 18 Jan 20 2.11am
Originally posted by braunstoneagle its obviously “f***s luck” that meant we never played in europe, what could have been. nobody other than us remembers the zds cup. And if they do it normally goes something like "... Oh come on, you're not talking about the bloody Zenith Data Systems Cup are you?" Yep. I am.
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18 Jan 20 2.11am

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

its obviously “f***s luck” that meant we never played in europe, what could have been.

nobody other than us remembers the zds cup.

And if they do it normally goes something like "... Oh come on, you're not talking about the bloody Zenith Data Systems Cup are you?"

Yep. I am.

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becky over the moon 18 Jan 20 6.29am
Originally posted by crvenaeagle And if they do it normally goes something like "... Oh come on, you're not talking about the bloody Zenith Data Systems Cup are you?" Yep. I am. Bldy nice piece of silverware, that cup! Attachment**: 34ee9e00919b53f3dc7d267f43554699.jpg (83.97Kb) A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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