The rape/abortion argument is a sideline as it represents relatively so few cases but always seems to lead the argument.

Look at the numbers of cases in certain places and demographics e.g. I think in some cases 70%+ of all pregnancies being aborted. That just can't be right when effective contraception is freely available. It's simply people not taking responsibility and making this socially unacceptable is the only way to fix it.

Abortion is far too easy and seeing this purely as a woman's right over her own body is wrong especially now that feminists are pushing late term (3rd trimester) abortion which is unbelievable. Baby's are being treated like like some form of disease in some quarters.

If you want to be informed on this subject you need to understand the actual process of abortion. It's a terrible thing.

I am all for abortion and think it should be available on the NHS for both UK citizens and visitors in this country, going as far as to encourage it where possible.

In an overpopulated world we need as few new mouths in the benefits system as we can get.

Other than this very minor difference, I'd still vote for Trumpy boy if I was a yank.

This is just a bit of lip service for the Bible bashers.

Edited by ChrisGC (16 May 2019 5.37pm)

Often the most heinous or divisive part of a bill is what gets the attention, yes. Kind of makes sense though doesnt it?

At its core this is just that, external interference into people's lives and changing the rights a woman has over her own body.

To deny a 12 year old who is raped by her uncle an abortion, because you know some women who get abortions should live their lives in a better way, seems a tough sell.

Abortion is a brutal process in essence, but all the bible bashers wanting people to have all of these kids wont be around to help raise them.

Do you not think a 12 year old raped by her uncle should be allowed to have an abortion?

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

That's for the mods to decide.

I find it rather distasteful of you to try and score political points from such a sensitive subject.
Please don't waste our time trying to pretend it is anything else. You have spent weeks attacking Trump and little else.

Like so much else these days, the subject becomes a polarising battleground for opposing factions.

I can't play politics with this subject.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 May 2019 6.46pm)

I think you just proved my point. I have limited patience for zealotry.

It is a sad statistic.

When one is younger and not yet a parent and perhaps not in a stable relationship, it is much easier to ignore the less comfortable realities of abortion.

Now I have had kids, I would find it impossible to recommend abortion to anyone, except in the most extreme circumstances.

Politics and religion don't come into it.