Morning all,

Im a season ticket holder in the Arthur Wait, Block X and have been for the last 16 seasons.
On Sunday, I saw so many Half & Half scarfs, Non English Speaking people (I have no issue with these people in every day society), people filming and taking pictures all game, applauding/cheering City or generally acting neutral..etc.

Dont get me wrong, I have noticed it before at certain games, but never to this extent, I genuinely counted over 60 half and half scarfs before kick off.
The entire row behind me and multiple infront of me were filled with Non-English speakers who had no allegiance to Crystal Palace whatsoever.
When we scored, many of the tourists barely reacted and it somewhat killed the buzz in my block.

When i witness days like Sunday, it makes me realise that I'd hate to be like City, United, Chelsea etc where actual fans are battling to get tickets with tourists.

It genuinely made me want to look into moving to the Holmesdale to move away from areas where these tourists get tickets.

I anticipate I may get some stick from all the PC people, but who really gives a toss.

I get your point and I'd be upset if there were non Palace fans in the Holmesdale but do you not visit other grounds when you are abroad? I occasionally go to other British grounds too and watch as a neutral.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

How do these people get tickets?! I saw half and half scarves everywhere as well, disgraceful really. No wonder the atmosphere is on the decline when there's so many neutrals in the crowd

Blimey, have we finally moved & to Forest Hill/ Honor Oak, nice.

Saying that, if ALL the 'visitors' do go there, it'll mean more 'locals' can get tickets.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Do you get to many games? If so then you must see this too! Do these people discussed in this thread not bother you at all? Personally i find it infuriating seeing people in my stand wearing scarfs with Pep's face on, or Man City shirts.

Of course i dont want to be in the Championship, but i do miss the Championship fan base.

Edited by RyWa (16 Apr 2019 3.30pm)

A point that many forget, and I did mention on another post, is Football has changed enormously in recent years and Citeh,Chelsea etc are now hosts for over seas investors to process or some might say,launder their money rather than investing in Art,etc invest in players and then sell them on to make a profit.
This follows the American model,in many ways which is about commercializing the product,'football,' and I am sure we will see more of this change happening.
I stopped watching Cricket years ago because I cannot tolerate 20 20 which is for me tantamount to baseball with a cricket bat.
Those traditionalists amongst us have to accept change and I can see in the not too distant future,as football develops,the laws changing to accommodate a wider audience.
I hope I'm wrong but maybe we need to have a neutrals enclosure where tourists can have their picnics etc.

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