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Stirlingsays 02 Nov 18 12.23pm
I urge you to watch this video by 'Rationality Rules' on decisions by European courts over references to the founder of Islam. [Link] All those who defend the EU and its required institutions, such as the courts therein should reflect upon the damage they have already done to freedom of speech. They are essentially enforcing blasphemy laws upon those in Europe. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Nov 2018 12.45pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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02 Nov 18 12.23pm

I urge you to watch this video by 'Rationality Rules' on decisions by European courts over references to the founder of Islam.

[Link]

All those who defend the EU and its required institutions, such as the courts therein should reflect upon the damage they have already done to freedom of speech.

They are essentially enforcing blasphemy laws upon those in Europe.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Nov 2018 12.45pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Badger11 Beckenham 02 Nov 18 12.42pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I urge you to watch this video by 'Rationality Rules' on decisions by European courts over references to the founder of Islam. [Link] All those who defend the EU and its required institutions, such as the courts therein should reflect upon the damage they have already done to freedom of speech. ----------------- Disgusting decision which I why I want to leave the ECHR as soon as possible and replace it with a British bill of rights. Freedom of Speech unless it advocates violence or criminality should be the bedrock of that bill of rights. I should point out that the ECHR is nothing to do with the EU but that doesn't take away from the valid point you are making. Edited by Badger11 (02 Nov 2018 12.43pm) One more point
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Beckenham 02 Nov 18 12.42pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I urge you to watch this video by 'Rationality Rules' on decisions by European courts over references to the founder of Islam.

[Link]

All those who defend the EU and its required institutions, such as the courts therein should reflect upon the damage they have already done to freedom of speech.
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Disgusting decision which I why I want to leave the ECHR as soon as possible and replace it with a British bill of rights. Freedom of Speech unless it advocates violence or criminality should be the bedrock of that bill of rights.

I should point out that the ECHR is nothing to do with the EU but that doesn't take away from the valid point you are making.

Edited by Badger11 (02 Nov 2018 12.43pm)

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Stirlingsays 02 Nov 18 12.44pm
Isn't it a requirement of being in the EU that you are subject to its laws? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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02 Nov 18 12.44pm

Isn't it a requirement of being in the EU that you are subject to its laws?

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 02 Nov 18 12.58pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I urge you to watch this video by 'Rationality Rules' on decisions by European courts over references to the founder of Islam. [Link] All those who defend the EU and its required institutions, such as the courts therein should reflect upon the damage they have already done to freedom of speech. They are essentially enforcing blasphemy laws upon those in Europe. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Nov 2018 12.45pm) It's the interpretation of these laws that is the issue. Do we trust authority not to use them as part of their agenda? Do we heck. What is most ironic is that we are promoting tolerance of one of the most intolerant religions on the planet. The fact that intelligent minds tolerate religious claptrap at all in the twenty first century is loony enough. Religion breeds intolerance and division. Therefore, I see no contradiction in not tolerating religion.
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02 Nov 18 12.58pm

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I urge you to watch this video by 'Rationality Rules' on decisions by European courts over references to the founder of Islam.

[Link]

All those who defend the EU and its required institutions, such as the courts therein should reflect upon the damage they have already done to freedom of speech.

They are essentially enforcing blasphemy laws upon those in Europe.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Nov 2018 12.45pm)

It's the interpretation of these laws that is the issue.
Do we trust authority not to use them as part of their agenda?

Do we heck.

What is most ironic is that we are promoting tolerance of one of the most intolerant religions on the planet.
The fact that intelligent minds tolerate religious claptrap at all in the twenty first century is loony enough.
Religion breeds intolerance and division. Therefore, I see no contradiction in not tolerating religion.

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steeleye20 Croydon 02 Nov 18 1.09pm
Got those turnips up yet S. Silly cow freedom of speech does not mean calling Mohammed a paedophile, or Jesus. No surprise she hails from Hitler's patch there are still plenty of them around if you look hard enough. Took this to every court imaginable too, they all rejected it. I will be continuing to have freedom of speech but conscious of my responsiblity. Tbh if you or I call Mohammed or Jesus a paedophile, then we deserve all we would get.
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Croydon 02 Nov 18 1.09pm

Got those turnips up yet S.

Silly cow freedom of speech does not mean calling Mohammed a paedophile, or Jesus.

No surprise she hails from Hitler's patch there are still plenty of them around if you look hard enough.

Took this to every court imaginable too, they all rejected it.

I will be continuing to have freedom of speech but conscious of my responsiblity.

Tbh if you or I call Mohammed or Jesus a paedophile, then we deserve all we would get.

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Badger11 Beckenham 02 Nov 18 1.21pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Isn't it a requirement of being in the EU that you are subject to its laws? Apparently not! I just looked it up, a lot of blurb I just skimmed. You are correct that all EU member states are members of the ECHR but it doesn't appear to be a legal requirement, the EU itself is not a party. They are very closely linked and the ECJ takes note of ECHR rulings. Anyway if you are correct that's just another reason to leave the EU. Edited by Badger11 (02 Nov 2018 1.22pm) One more point
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Beckenham 02 Nov 18 1.21pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Isn't it a requirement of being in the EU that you are subject to its laws?

Apparently not! I just looked it up, a lot of blurb I just skimmed. You are correct that all EU member states are members of the ECHR but it doesn't appear to be a legal requirement, the EU itself is not a party. They are very closely linked and the ECJ takes note of ECHR rulings.

Anyway if you are correct that's just another reason to leave the EU.

Edited by Badger11 (02 Nov 2018 1.22pm)

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Stirlingsays 02 Nov 18 1.54pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Got those turnips up yet S. Silly cow freedom of speech does not mean calling Mohammed a paedophile, or Jesus. No surprise she hails from Hitler's patch there are still plenty of them around if you look hard enough. Took this to every court imaginable too, they all rejected it. I will be continuing to have freedom of speech but conscious of my responsiblity. Tbh if you or I call Mohammed or Jesus a paedophile, then we deserve all we would get. Sorry Steely but you speak in defence of blasphemy laws not freedom of speech. Don't tell me that these are acceptable laws to live under thank you very much. Your whole post is a paradoxical statement. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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02 Nov 18 1.54pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Got those turnips up yet S.

Silly cow freedom of speech does not mean calling Mohammed a paedophile, or Jesus.

No surprise she hails from Hitler's patch there are still plenty of them around if you look hard enough.

Took this to every court imaginable too, they all rejected it.

I will be continuing to have freedom of speech but conscious of my responsiblity.

Tbh if you or I call Mohammed or Jesus a paedophile, then we deserve all we would get.

Sorry Steely but you speak in defence of blasphemy laws not freedom of speech.

Don't tell me that these are acceptable laws to live under thank you very much.

Your whole post is a paradoxical statement.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Pussay Patrol 02 Nov 18 2.10pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Isn't it a requirement of being in the EU that you are subject to its laws? Nope I'm sure the leave campaign would have you believe otherwise tho ! After all, you felt compelled to post that as an Anti EU attack ! Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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02 Nov 18 2.10pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Isn't it a requirement of being in the EU that you are subject to its laws?

Nope

I'm sure the leave campaign would have you believe otherwise tho ! After all, you felt compelled to post that as an Anti EU attack !

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 02 Nov 18 2.11pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Nope I'm sure the leave campaign would have you believe otherwise tho ! After all, you felt compelled to post that as an Anti EU attack ! Of course it is. That's why the majority of us voted to leave !!! Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 02 Nov 18 2.11pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Nope

I'm sure the leave campaign would have you believe otherwise tho ! After all, you felt compelled to post that as an Anti EU attack !

Of course it is. That's why the majority of us voted to leave !!!

Pro USA & Israel

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Stirlingsays 02 Nov 18 2.12pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Nope I'm sure the leave campaign would have you believe otherwise tho ! After all, you felt compelled to post that as an Anti EU attack ! Fair enough.....However it's a European advisory court and one's whose judgements I completely reject. Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Nov 2018 2.13pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

02 Nov 18 2.12pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Nope

I'm sure the leave campaign would have you believe otherwise tho ! After all, you felt compelled to post that as an Anti EU attack !

Fair enough.....However it's a European advisory court and one's whose judgements I completely reject.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Nov 2018 2.13pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Pussay Patrol 02 Nov 18 3.12pm
Originally posted by Jimenez Of course it is. That's why the majority of us voted to leave !!! well you voted based on lies, as many did Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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Pussay Patrol

02 Nov 18 3.12pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

Of course it is. That's why the majority of us voted to leave !!!

well you voted based on lies, as many did

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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Stirlingsays 02 Nov 18 3.20pm
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol well you voted based on lies, as many did You mean a lie that we are leaving? At least it feels like it half the time. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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02 Nov 18 3.20pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

well you voted based on lies, as many did

You mean a lie that we are leaving?

At least it feels like it half the time.

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