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leejaneagles 02 Oct 18 12.39pm | |
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Something that often happens in football when it comes to salary negotiation that doesn't happen in any other environment is outsiders looking in always take the side of the CEO's/Board over the Staff. If someone is trying to negotiate a 5% pay-rise on 20k with a big Corporation you won't find many people arguing against it. Of course with Footballers we start to lose sympathy and correlation because someone is throwing their toys out the pram because they aren't getting 70k per week but only 60. However, looking at Bakary Sako, he was the only Striker that could consistantly score last season and score all types of goals. He was also the only Striker that tried. Just look at us this season. There are a lot of topics on Murray and Gayle etc but we got fees for them. We had other options and believed quite sensibly that Benteke would be a better Striker than Murray. We knew full well we were going into yet another season with no good Striker. Sako can blast one from 30 yards, run through a defence and score or tap one in at the far post. Hate to say it but we don't lose 2-0 to Southampton, 0-0 Newcastle and 2-1 Bournemouth with Sako in the team. We as fans should of supported/demanded that his salary expectations got met. Just like we would if it was Wilf. It's an absolute joke that with no other striking options the board decided that saving 10k per week was better than finishing easily in the top-half.
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premier fan BR4 02 Oct 18 12.45pm | |
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Originally posted by leejaneagles
Something that often happens in football when it comes to salary negotiation that doesn't happen in any other environment is outsiders looking in always take the side of the CEO's/Board over the Staff. If someone is trying to negotiate a 5% pay-rise on 20k with a big Corporation you won't find many people arguing against it. Of course with Footballers we start to lose sympathy and correlation because someone is throwing their toys out the pram because they aren't getting 70k per week but only 60. However, looking at Bakary Sako, he was the only Striker that could consistantly score last season and score all types of goals. He was also the only Striker that tried. Just look at us this season. There are a lot of topics on Murray and Gayle etc but we got fees for them. We had other options and believed quite sensibly that Benteke would be a better Striker than Murray. We knew full well we were going into yet another season with no good Striker. Sako can blast one from 30 yards, run through a defence and score or tap one in at the far post. Hate to say it but we don't lose 2-0 to Southampton, 0-0 Newcastle and 2-1 Bournemouth with Sako in the team. We as fans should of supported/demanded that his salary expectations got met. Just like we would if it was Wilf. It's an absolute joke that with no other striking options the board decided that saving 10k per week was better than finishing easily in the top-half. Buy the club and you can make the decisions... as far as Sako is concerned, he rarely played and was demanding very high wages so I can understand the reluctance in retaining him. Sounds like you've hit the panic button?
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Bangell Oxford 02 Oct 18 12.49pm | |
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Having Sako = 'finishing easily in the top-half'? This is quite an extraordinary statement, selectively extrapolating from a few good games out of an incredibly underwhelming CPFC career.
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lefty27 ipswich 02 Oct 18 12.51pm | |
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Are you Sako or just on a wind up. He was dog s*** until the last few months of his contract. He has a good left foot. That is all.
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leejaneagles 02 Oct 18 12.53pm | |
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More the frustration button. That frustration being there has been fundamentally one key issue for so long (Well over a year) that being we don't have a good Striker. I don't think the Board realise how lucky they have it. When you look at some of the stuff going at both ends of the scale, you've got the Civil War at Manchester United and Cardiff need a full new team and new Manager to have a chance at survival. Credit where credit is due, our Board are good at solving most problems. Zaha signing a new contract was unexpected and excellent, signing Sakho after the loan, getting Roy Hodgson in when everyone said he was past it. But we now have a good enough squad and excellent Management Team to finally push on if we could just sort the Striking option out. Not only do they not do that but they get rid of the only the Player capable of scoring from the Central Striker position without damaging our Wing options. I'm not panicked because I think Parish will get lucky again with Huddersfield and Cardiff permantly taking 2 of the relegation places from now until the end of the season (I hope). But yes, when I like many others pay good money for a season ticket to see us never score at home and fans are making awkward journeys on Monday nights to the likes of Bournemouth, only to see Ayew stumble around and Sorloth not know what a football is we have a right to highlight the issues without being told "buy the club yourself". Okay, I can't say we'd of won the last 3 with Sako in the team. I truly believe we would have at least drawn last night and beat Newcastle though. Just look at the state of us up front.
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leejaneagles 02 Oct 18 12.56pm | |
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Apologies for double post, a few replies got in there before me. Just to be clear, I'm not a total moron, I'm not saying Sako is Ronaldo. The best option is for us to replace the Strikers we let go with better ones. We don't do that though and showed no intention to. Simply put to make my point clearer and more succinct - who would you rather have up front? Benteke, Sorloth, Ayew or Sako? The options aren't Murray or a new striker, it is just those. That is my gripe here. Of course I'd love us to sign a better striker than Sako but it won't happen. Edited by leejaneagles (02 Oct 2018 12.57pm)
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Lakeview Lincoln 02 Oct 18 1.04pm | |
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Maybe I'm just a crazy optimist, but I still believe Connor Wickham may do a job for us. If this carries on some may welcome a refreshed and fully-fit Benteke back. The break may do him good.
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leejaneagles 02 Oct 18 1.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Lakeview
Maybe I'm just a crazy optimist, but I still believe Connor Wickham may do a job for us. If this carries on some may welcome a refreshed and fully-fit Benteke back. The break may do him good. I hope you're right but what a gamble! Also, the more I see our team play it between Sakho, Luka and Tomkins the more I miss Benteke. Although I think we all know this isn't the answer, it's mad to me to actually miss him, it doesn't show his worth, it shows how poor Ayew and Sorloth are plus how bad our team are without a hoof option. Which doesn't make much sense because we played fine without one last season so seem to be going backwards worryingly. Edited by leejaneagles (02 Oct 2018 1.24pm)
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DutchEagleJohan Vlissingen, Netherlands 02 Oct 18 2.50pm | |
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As Sako is banging them in in the top half op the PL I can understand your frustration! Wait....there are rumors of a Championship club being interested. At let me guess: about half the wages we offered him, but that is just a guess. Yet, I'd be interested if Ayew is costing us more then extending him for a year would have done as I would agree on keeping him if it does. Originally posted by leejaneagles
Something that often happens in football when it comes to salary negotiation that doesn't happen in any other environment is outsiders looking in always take the side of the CEO's/Board over the Staff. If someone is trying to negotiate a 5% pay-rise on 20k with a big Corporation you won't find many people arguing against it. Of course with Footballers we start to lose sympathy and correlation because someone is throwing their toys out the pram because they aren't getting 70k per week but only 60. However, looking at Bakary Sako, he was the only Striker that could consistantly score last season and score all types of goals. He was also the only Striker that tried. Just look at us this season. There are a lot of topics on Murray and Gayle etc but we got fees for them. We had other options and believed quite sensibly that Benteke would be a better Striker than Murray. We knew full well we were going into yet another season with no good Striker. Sako can blast one from 30 yards, run through a defence and score or tap one in at the far post. Hate to say it but we don't lose 2-0 to Southampton, 0-0 Newcastle and 2-1 Bournemouth with Sako in the team. We as fans should of supported/demanded that his salary expectations got met. Just like we would if it was Wilf. It's an absolute joke that with no other striking options the board decided that saving 10k per week was better than finishing easily in the top-half.
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premier fan BR4 02 Oct 18 4.47pm | |
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The return of Connor Wickham couldn't come soon enough. If he can get some playing time this side of Christmas it could be like signing a new top quality striker in the new year.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Oct 18 5.05pm | |
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Sako has signed for WBA.
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becky over the moon 02 Oct 18 7.38pm | |
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Originally posted by premier fan
The return of Connor Wickham couldn't come soon enough. If he can get some playing time this side of Christmas it could be like signing a new top quality striker in the new year. Given how even Meyer can't yet manage 90 minutes after only missing a summer of pre-season, I can't, with the best will in the world, see Wickham setting the team on fire after 2 years without a game.
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