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 Midlands Eagle  28 Sep 18 1.10pm |
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I have been following the sad case of the teenage girl who died after eating an unlabelled artichoke, olive and tapenade baguette bought bought from a Pret a Manger shop at Heathrow Airport. Her father made a statement after the hearing has finished in which he said that Pret a Manger had been playing Russian Roulette with his daughter and other peoples' lives by not labelling their products for allergy sufferers. Shouldn't the father bear some of the blame as I'm sure that if my child had life threatening allergies I wouldn't buy unlabelled sandwiches when there are so many other shops selling sandwiches and baguettes in the airport that do have labelling on them. Surely someone whose daughter had a serious allergy to sesame would be aware that some bread is made with sesame flour and wouldn't risk his daughter eating it
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| Stirlingsays 28 Sep 18 1.19pm |
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Tragic case. In an observation that is only fascinating to me I hold the distinction of having worked in Pet a Manger's very first outlet...a converted bank on Liverpool Street. I could tell some juicy stories about those early days.....but considering the nature of the thread perhaps another day. These instances are always a possibility. I should imagine to minimize risk people with these life threatening conditions should only be eating home prepared food and drink.....a condition like this means you don't get to live the same life as others. Again tragic.
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| Kempez anywhere but here 28 Sep 18 1.43pm |
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As someone who suffers from an allergy and has to carry jext pens (new epipens) it can be very difficult, I always have to check any sandwich and often rely on the ingredients on the back but if they are not there, often if you ask the staff there is a binder and you can check in that. It is a bit of a pain but it's what I have had to do the 16yrs as I developed the allergy. One of the issues is some companies over label so you can't eat anything and you start working out the risk of say an fresh juice and others don't label at all. The worse one is trying to get a take away you can trust! It also depends on the severity of allergy, I was on a plane last month and the announcement came over of not to eat nuts as someone (not me thankfully) had a very sensitive allergy and through aircon etc could be affected. I have been following this case as it something I see as a risk often and it's is very tragic however a sensible precaution would be not to have something you haven't had before I your going on a plane/boat etc where you cannot easily get medical help if required.
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| YT Oxford 28 Sep 18 1.46pm |
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It's a terrible tragedy and I have every sympathy with the bereaved, but I have to admit that the OP reflects precisely the conversations Mrs YT and I have had as the inquest has unfolded. If one of our daughters suffered from such a life-threatening allergy, they wouldn't be allowed near processed foods or food prepared by others.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 28 Sep 18 2.16pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I have been following the sad case of the teenage girl who died after eating an unlabelled artichoke, olive and tapenade baguette bought bought from a Pret a Manger shop at Heathrow Airport. Her father made a statement after the hearing has finished in which he said that Pret a Manger had been playing Russian Roulette with his daughter and other peoples' lives by not labelling their products for allergy sufferers. Shouldn't the father bear some of the blame as I'm sure that if my child had life threatening allergies I wouldn't buy unlabelled sandwiches when there are so many other shops selling sandwiches and baguettes in the airport that do have labelling on them. Surely someone whose daughter had a serious allergy to sesame would be aware that some bread is made with sesame flour and wouldn't risk his daughter eating it You'd have thought so. I suppose it's natural to try and blame someone else when tragedy strikes.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 28 Sep 18 2.17pm |
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I will not be using Pret until they change their policy over labeling. I appreciate it maybe difficult when the food is made on site but we are not talking about a worker accidentally adding nuts to a sandwich. The nuts were contained in the dough bread. If Pret wants to keep its reputation they must move in the direction of food safety otherwise the public will foot with their feet.
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| Stuk Top half 28 Sep 18 2.48pm |
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Whenever these cases occur i'm always surprised that the people with the known allergies take the risk of letting someone else prepare any food for them, ever. You can't even trust a processed meal to have the same meat in it as it's labelled.
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| Stuk Top half 28 Sep 18 2.51pm |
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Originally posted by Kempez
As someone who suffers from an allergy and has to carry jext pens (new epipens) it can be very difficult, I always have to check any sandwich and often rely on the ingredients on the back but if they are not there, often if you ask the staff there is a binder and you can check in that. It is a bit of a pain but it's what I have had to do the 16yrs as I developed the allergy. One of the issues is some companies over label so you can't eat anything and you start working out the risk of say an fresh juice and others don't label at all. The worse one is trying to get a take away you can trust! It also depends on the severity of allergy, I was on a plane last month and the announcement came over of not to eat nuts as someone (not me thankfully) had a very sensitive allergy and through aircon etc could be affected. I have been following this case as it something I see as a risk often and it's is very tragic however a sensible precaution would be not to have something you haven't had before I your going on a plane/boat etc where you cannot easily get medical help if required. From the company's point of view though it's got to be the safest option to say "everything may contain x, y or z."
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| steeleye20 Croydon 28 Sep 18 2.56pm |
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Bugger everything, reading of this poor girl's demise really brought life into focus.
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| Kempez anywhere but here 28 Sep 18 3.17pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
From the company's point of view though it's got to be the safest option to say "everything may contain x, y or z." Yes this is why they do it but what it does is cover them but means people don't trust the label which is also wrong. I am very careful but if a juice says made in factory etc I might have it depending on situation. It is very poor from pret but a lot of them are the same.
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| Stuk Top half 28 Sep 18 3.30pm |
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Originally posted by Kempez
Yes this is why they do it but what it does is cover them but means people don't trust the label which is also wrong. I am very careful but if a juice says made in factory etc I might have it depending on situation. It is very poor from pret but a lot of them are the same. Better to be overly cautious than end up with a situation like the Pret one though.
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palace_in_frogland  In a broken dream 28 Sep 18 5.52pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Tragic case. In an observation that is only fascinating to me I hold the distinction of having worked in Pet a Manger's very first outlet...a converted bank on Liverpool Street. I could tell some juicy stories about those early days.....but considering the nature of the thread perhaps another day. These instances are always a possibility. I should imagine to minimize risk people with these life threatening conditions should only be eating home prepared food and drink.....a condition like this means you don't get to live the same life as others. Again tragic. Very popular in Korea I understand.
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