No real shock, and I expect plenty of finger-crossing to emerge in the next few weeks but that quote, I am not sure of its heritage. Seen it attributed to a convicted paedo.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

The person who said that is a white supremacist, which seems apt in the circumstances.

Also, you might want to look at Voltaire's writing before claiming that. His views were far more subtle. He was all for freedom of the press, etc., but he did not want the masses to have a voice. He clearly set out a case for wisdom to flow from above as he was not keen on the masses or mass democracy.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

Just read a more detailed report. And Corbyn's finger crossing moment is there, as clear as day. His amendment and its subsequent rejection.

But for the true believers, then its clear that JC is still their man but was foiled by those pesky centralists.

Gotta hand it to Labour. On both Brexit and now this, they know how to walk the tight-rope of convincing both sides that they really side with them.

It is rather well played. The cult of Jezza continues apace.

Edited by Matov (04 Sep 2018 7.48pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

So this is labour signing up to the full international definition of anti-semitism?

Seems a good idea to be in line internationally.

Surely that should simply read, if someone is going to quote someone, they should actually look it up before demonstrating their ignorance for all to see.

If you think I’m left wing because I called out a misquote you are nuts.

Edited by NickinOX (04 Sep 2018 8.08pm)

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

Ideally yes but in this modern world of social media the understandable temptation is to just grab what fits your own agenda and regurgitate it. Guilty as charged myself,so no finger pointing here.

For an example of it happening from the Left/Progressive side, one my own pet personal favourites, Yasmin Ali (Bongo) Brown dropped a huge clanger on Twitter recently, posting a picture that was clearly a publicity shot from 'Allo, Allo' with the cast members dressed up in Nazi uniforms and claiming it as more evidence of the growing influence of the Far-Right in the UK.

Happens to the best of us. Trick is to understand that sometimes the concept of 'mea culpa' is the best one to adopt, be more cautious next time and move on.

And me even responding to you shows I am not immune from getting dragged in either.

Edited by Matov (04 Sep 2018 8.12pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.