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Stirlingsays 07 Aug 18 8.09am
Infowars has been banned from Apple, Facebook, Youtube and Spotify, all within a 12 hour timeframe that strongly suggests some soft of media collusion. To me this appears to be an attempt to influence the mid term elections by shutting off one of the main Trump cheerleaders and attack dogs on the democratic media. Also this is also a plain old attack on free speech and also an anti trust issue with media companies ganging together to ban an ideological competitor. Now I'm no supporter of Alex Jones.....mainly over the 'Sandy Hook' and '9/11' comments. I agree with all the criticism he received for that. However, he has the right to an opinion and the right to air it. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 8.10am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Aug 18 8.09am

Infowars has been banned from Apple, Facebook, Youtube and Spotify, all within a 12 hour timeframe that strongly suggests some soft of media collusion.

To me this appears to be an attempt to influence the mid term elections by shutting off one of the main Trump cheerleaders and attack dogs on the democratic media.

Also this is also a plain old attack on free speech and also an anti trust issue with media companies ganging together to ban an ideological competitor.

Now I'm no supporter of Alex Jones.....mainly over the 'Sandy Hook' and '9/11' comments. I agree with all the criticism he received for that.

However, he has the right to an opinion and the right to air it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 8.10am)

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DanH SW2 07 Aug 18 8.32am
He doesn’t have a right to an audience though. And private companies can do what they like, get over it snowflake.
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DanH

SW2 07 Aug 18 8.32am

He doesn’t have a right to an audience though.

And private companies can do what they like, get over it snowflake.

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Matov 07 Aug 18 9.23am
Originally posted by DanH He doesn’t have a right to an audience though. And private companies can do what they like, get over it snowflake. A valid point. Which is why the Right need to start coming together and boycotting a variety of companies along with supporting others. I am also not a fan of info-wars, for a variety of reasons, but the collusion against it cannot be ignored. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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07 Aug 18 9.23am

Originally posted by DanH

He doesn’t have a right to an audience though.

And private companies can do what they like, get over it snowflake.

A valid point.

Which is why the Right need to start coming together and boycotting a variety of companies along with supporting others.

I am also not a fan of info-wars, for a variety of reasons, but the collusion against it cannot be ignored.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Stirlingsays 07 Aug 18 9.33am
Originally posted by DanH He doesn’t have a right to an audience though. And private companies can do what they like, get over it snowflake. He does have a right to an audience.....where on earth does that thinking come from? As for private companies....Well, actually private companies can't do many many things by law. As for who they 'allow' on their platforms when they constitute a monopoly I don't personally believe they actually do have this right. There are going to be consequences for them here. As for calling me a snowflake.....coming from a short beta male I'll take it with a smile. For you education, a snowflake is someone who reacts emotively and hyperbolicly to a situation. I'm here discussing an issue and its implications. The snowflakes tend to be on your side of the fence....if you could only look over it you might understand that. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 9.44am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Aug 18 9.33am

Originally posted by DanH

He doesn’t have a right to an audience though.

And private companies can do what they like, get over it snowflake.

He does have a right to an audience.....where on earth does that thinking come from?

As for private companies....Well, actually private companies can't do many many things by law. As for who they 'allow' on their platforms when they constitute a monopoly I don't personally believe they actually do have this right.

There are going to be consequences for them here.

As for calling me a snowflake.....coming from a short beta male I'll take it with a smile.

For you education, a snowflake is someone who reacts emotively and hyperbolicly to a situation. I'm here discussing an issue and its implications.

The snowflakes tend to be on your side of the fence....if you could only look over it you might understand that.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 9.44am)

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Stirlingsays 07 Aug 18 9.40am
Originally posted by Matov A valid point. Which is why the Right need to start coming together and boycotting a variety of companies along with supporting others. I am also not a fan of info-wars, for a variety of reasons, but the collusion against it cannot be ignored. This will eventually happen. There are already completing companies like Gab, BitChute and Twitch, However, running companies like Youtube for example comes at a massive loss.....it needs something like Google behind it covering those losses. One real change will come when Trump leaves Twitter.....that will feck them and bring a huge number away from the platform. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 9.45am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Aug 18 9.40am

Originally posted by Matov

A valid point.

Which is why the Right need to start coming together and boycotting a variety of companies along with supporting others.

I am also not a fan of info-wars, for a variety of reasons, but the collusion against it cannot be ignored.

This will eventually happen. There are already completing companies like Gab, BitChute and Twitch,

However, running companies like Youtube for example comes at a massive loss.....it needs something like Google behind it covering those losses.

One real change will come when Trump leaves Twitter.....that will feck them and bring a huge number away from the platform.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 9.45am)

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new_in_Wait Lewisham 07 Aug 18 9.48am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Infowars has been banned from Apple, Facebook, Youtube and Spotify, all within a 12 hour timeframe that strongly suggests some soft of media collusion. To me this appears to be an attempt to influence the mid term elections by shutting off one of the main Trump cheerleaders and attack dogs on the democratic media. Also this is also a plain old attack on free speech and also an anti trust issue with media companies ganging together to ban an ideological competitor. Now I'm no supporter of Alex Jones.....mainly over the 'Sandy Hook' and '9/11' comments. I agree with all the criticism he received for that. However, he has the right to an opinion and the right to air it. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 8.10am) A good analysis here: [Link] All these platforms have hate-speech rules so they had the prerogative to get rid of Alex Jones a while ago. They were afraid of the 'conservative backlash', but eventually Apple went for it. And then the others followed. It was a matter of who blinks first.
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Lewisham 07 Aug 18 9.48am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Infowars has been banned from Apple, Facebook, Youtube and Spotify, all within a 12 hour timeframe that strongly suggests some soft of media collusion.

To me this appears to be an attempt to influence the mid term elections by shutting off one of the main Trump cheerleaders and attack dogs on the democratic media.

Also this is also a plain old attack on free speech and also an anti trust issue with media companies ganging together to ban an ideological competitor.

Now I'm no supporter of Alex Jones.....mainly over the 'Sandy Hook' and '9/11' comments. I agree with all the criticism he received for that.

However, he has the right to an opinion and the right to air it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 8.10am)

A good analysis here:

[Link]

All these platforms have hate-speech rules so they had the prerogative to get rid of Alex Jones a while ago.

They were afraid of the 'conservative backlash', but eventually Apple went for it. And then the others followed. It was a matter of who blinks first.

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Stirlingsays 07 Aug 18 9.54am
Originally posted by new_in_Wait A good analysis here: [Link] All these platforms have hate-speech rules so they had the prerogative to get rid of Alex Jones a while ago. They were afraid of the 'conservative backlash', but eventually Apple went for it. And then the others followed. It was a matter of who blinks first. Don't get me started on 'hate speech rules'. In the political sphere these are applied through a biased lens and they are an affront to free speech anyway. I want to see these companies pay for this.......this is meddling in elections. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 9.54am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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07 Aug 18 9.54am

Originally posted by new_in_Wait

A good analysis here:

[Link]

All these platforms have hate-speech rules so they had the prerogative to get rid of Alex Jones a while ago.

They were afraid of the 'conservative backlash', but eventually Apple went for it. And then the others followed. It was a matter of who blinks first.

Don't get me started on 'hate speech rules'. In the political sphere these are applied through a biased lens and they are an affront to free speech anyway.

I want to see these companies pay for this.......this is meddling in elections.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 9.54am)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 18 10.26am
Free speech does not mean that everyone has the right to say whatever they like, in public. If it encourages violence, or other illegal activity, then it is right to suppress it. You can think whatever you wish, and discuss it with others in private, but if you go public then rules apply. Media platforms are at liberty to set their own standards and decide who they will host and reject those who don't meet them. InfoWars still broadcast on their own platform so have nothing whatsoever to complain about. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 07 Aug 18 10.26am

Free speech does not mean that everyone has the right to say whatever they like, in public. If it encourages violence, or other illegal activity, then it is right to suppress it. You can think whatever you wish, and discuss it with others in private, but if you go public then rules apply.

Media platforms are at liberty to set their own standards and decide who they will host and reject those who don't meet them.

InfoWars still broadcast on their own platform so have nothing whatsoever to complain about.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 07 Aug 18 10.33am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Infowars has been banned from Apple, Facebook, Youtube and Spotify, all within a 12 hour timeframe that strongly suggests some soft of media collusion. To me this appears to be an attempt to influence the mid term elections by shutting off one of the main Trump cheerleaders and attack dogs on the democratic media. Also this is also a plain old attack on free speech and also an anti trust issue with media companies ganging together to ban an ideological competitor. Now I'm no supporter of Alex Jones.....mainly over the 'Sandy Hook' and '9/11' comments. I agree with all the criticism he received for that. However, he has the right to an opinion and the right to air it. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 8.10am) Collusion? Conspiracy theorising there. More like Apple jumped and the rest followed once they heard as they considered it the best move commercially. No one wants to be the only one left on that raft.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Infowars has been banned from Apple, Facebook, Youtube and Spotify, all within a 12 hour timeframe that strongly suggests some soft of media collusion.

To me this appears to be an attempt to influence the mid term elections by shutting off one of the main Trump cheerleaders and attack dogs on the democratic media.

Also this is also a plain old attack on free speech and also an anti trust issue with media companies ganging together to ban an ideological competitor.

Now I'm no supporter of Alex Jones.....mainly over the 'Sandy Hook' and '9/11' comments. I agree with all the criticism he received for that.

However, he has the right to an opinion and the right to air it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 8.10am)

Collusion? Conspiracy theorising there.

More like Apple jumped and the rest followed once they heard as they considered it the best move commercially. No one wants to be the only one left on that raft.

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Stirlingsays 07 Aug 18 10.38am
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle Collusion? Conspiracy theorising there. More like Apple jumped and the rest followed once they heard as they considered it the best move commercially. No one wants to be the only one left on that raft. I said 'suggests'. Most conspiracy theories are in my opinion nonsense. However collusion in the business world is not rare. Perhaps you are right about this, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that there was some prior arrangement. Maybe Wikileaks will tell us....or time will reveal either way. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 10.40am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

07 Aug 18 10.38am

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

Collusion? Conspiracy theorising there.

More like Apple jumped and the rest followed once they heard as they considered it the best move commercially. No one wants to be the only one left on that raft.

I said 'suggests'.

Most conspiracy theories are in my opinion nonsense. However collusion in the business world is not rare.

Perhaps you are right about this, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that there was some prior arrangement.

Maybe Wikileaks will tell us....or time will reveal either way.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 10.40am)

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Palace Hero Melbourne, Australia 07 Aug 18 11.34am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Infowars has been banned from Apple, Facebook, Youtube and Spotify, all within a 12 hour timeframe that strongly suggests some soft of media collusion. To me this appears to be an attempt to influence the mid term elections by shutting off one of the main Trump cheerleaders and attack dogs on the democratic media. Also this is also a plain old attack on free speech and also an anti trust issue with media companies ganging together to ban an ideological competitor. Now I'm no supporter of Alex Jones.....mainly over the 'Sandy Hook' and '9/11' comments. I agree with all the criticism he received for that. However, he has the right to an opinion and the right to air it. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 8.10am) Okay. What do you want to do about it?
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Melbourne, Australia 07 Aug 18 11.34am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Infowars has been banned from Apple, Facebook, Youtube and Spotify, all within a 12 hour timeframe that strongly suggests some soft of media collusion.

To me this appears to be an attempt to influence the mid term elections by shutting off one of the main Trump cheerleaders and attack dogs on the democratic media.

Also this is also a plain old attack on free speech and also an anti trust issue with media companies ganging together to ban an ideological competitor.

Now I'm no supporter of Alex Jones.....mainly over the 'Sandy Hook' and '9/11' comments. I agree with all the criticism he received for that.

However, he has the right to an opinion and the right to air it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Aug 2018 8.10am)

Okay.

What do you want to do about it?

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Stirlingsays 07 Aug 18 11.36am
Originally posted by Palace Hero Okay. What do you want to do about it? Internet bill of rights. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

07 Aug 18 11.36am

Originally posted by Palace Hero

Okay.

What do you want to do about it?

Internet bill of rights.

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