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Park Road 14 Jun 18 8.00am | |
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What if God was actually the evil one and Satan was in fact good? After all, God is responsible for billions upon billions deaths, while Satan is responsible for only 10, all of which God commanded of him. If something bad happens like an earthquake or a Tsunami, we tend to call it 'an act of god' not an 'act of the devil'. Why? It beggars my belief that millions of 'believers' claim that god is good, when the 'evidence' from his alleged behaviours and teachings is so comprehensively the opposite. Throughout the bible there are numerous accounts of god dishing out divine punishment by way of genocide, plagues, ethnic cleansing, and the like. If the bible were the word of god, then god supports infanticide, slavery, torture genocide and all manner of death destruction and suffering. I do not know of any mention of the devil being blamed for such things. Satan is the only deity who truly stands for free will. God threatens us with punishments for not adhering to his wishes. But Satan tells us that we should enjoy our lives and be happy and free to do what we think is right.
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DanH SW2 14 Jun 18 8.03am | |
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Always knew you lot rooted for the villain in Disney films when you were kids.
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Badger11 Beckenham 14 Jun 18 8.06am | |
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I don't believe in god or the devil. I do believe in good and evil. When I was at school we read John MIlton's Paradise Lost. It is a poem in which the devil persuasively argues that he is the victim (must be a scouser) and that he was hard done by god for simply exercising his free will. The devil's argument follows closely to the ideas in your post. However those who are religious would point out that Milton is actually saying that the devil is a liar, an attractive and plausible one as the best liars are.
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Park Road 14 Jun 18 8.38am | |
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Originally posted by DanH
Always knew you lot rooted for the villain in Disney films when you were kids. Us lot???
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Park Road 14 Jun 18 8.43am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I don't believe in god or the devil. I do believe in good and evil. When I was at school we read John MIlton's Paradise Lost. It is a poem in which the devil persuasively argues that he is the victim (must be a scouser) and that he was hard done by god for simply exercising his free will. The devil's argument follows closely to the ideas in your post. However those who are religious would point out that Milton is actually saying that the devil is a liar, an attractive and plausible one as the best liars are. The whole poem really has to be a justification (successful or not) of God's ways. But is it? Is Milton really putting himself where he can vindicate God's perspective on things?
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Cannonball High in the Ozarks. 14 Jun 18 9.32am | |
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Originally posted by Park Road
What if God was actually the evil one and Satan was in fact good? After all, God is responsible for billions upon billions deaths, while Satan is responsible for only 10, all of which God commanded of him. If something bad happens like an earthquake or a Tsunami, we tend to call it 'an act of god' not an 'act of the devil'. Why? It beggars my belief that millions of 'believers' claim that god is good, when the 'evidence' from his alleged behaviours and teachings is so comprehensively the opposite. Throughout the bible there are numerous accounts of god dishing out divine punishment by way of genocide, plagues, ethnic cleansing, and the like. If the bible were the word of god, then god supports infanticide, slavery, torture genocide and all manner of death destruction and suffering. I do not know of any mention of the devil being blamed for such things. Satan is the only deity who truly stands for free will. God threatens us with punishments for not adhering to his wishes. But Satan tells us that we should enjoy our lives and be happy and free to do what we think is right. Excellent post. I have always thought that was the case since I was a kid and had to read the Bible.Two stories stuck in my mind about just how nasty God was.
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YT Oxford 14 Jun 18 10.01am | |
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Originally posted by Cannonball
Excellent post. I have always thought that was the case since I was a kid and had to read the Bible.Two stories stuck in my mind about just how nasty God was. Yeah but I think ‘God Lite’ later on in the Bible (New Testament) was a bit more touchy-feely.
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DanH SW2 14 Jun 18 10.14am | |
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It’s all just a load of bollocks really, isn’t it?
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Jun 18 10.16am | |
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All you heretics, apostates and blasphemers are going to burn in hell.
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Badger11 Beckenham 14 Jun 18 10.21am | |
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Originally posted by YT
Yeah but I think ‘God Lite’ later on in the Bible (New Testament) was a bit more touchy-feely. The old testament is all about people begetting and smiting. So nothing's really changed then? Seems like the human race never learns.
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DANGERCLOSE London 14 Jun 18 10.56am | |
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Why do we exist? Keep asking yourself the same question and you will eventually find the answer?
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Stirlingsays 14 Jun 18 11.20am | |
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It might have started with unstable people desperate to believe in something but it grew because It's all just a means of control.....jobs for clerics. It's why religions have sprang up thousands of times in numerous places all throughout history. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jun 2018 11.22am)
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