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7mins In the bush 04 Jun 18 4.32pm | |
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Badger11 Beckenham 04 Jun 18 4.40pm | |
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The answer to your question is no. You cannot negotiate with people who hold there views you can only surrender. And even if we did that ISIS has made it clear they would still kill all us infidels. However we can contain them and foil their plots we can also educate our young people that this is a death cult. It is sad that a young woman feels this way we just have to hold the line. France has a lot of anger because many do not have jobs are are shunned by the rest of the country. We cannot allow that to happen here and we must integrate them, easier said then done of course. We may not defeat it but I think in time it will reduce in significance.However this relies on the government (any government) having the right policies.
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Stirlingsays 04 Jun 18 4.45pm | |
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Not on our current trajectory. The numbers on watch lists are only going to increase. What I worry about is when they figure out how to avoid being caught.....what was it? 12 broken up attack plans in the last year? It's probably like the gun debate in the US....too far gone to remedy. The politicians gave you this.
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 04 Jun 18 7.10pm | |
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Globally, possibly not. But here in the UK, an aggressive policy of rapid detention, internment and deportation might minimise or at least lessen the risk. Edited by Cucking Funt (04 Jun 2018 7.20pm)
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cryrst The garden of England 04 Jun 18 8.02pm | |
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It will take a couple or more centuries to stop totally.
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.TUX. 04 Jun 18 9.58pm | |
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We invented it.
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Bert the Head Epsom 05 Jun 18 12.10am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
The answer to your question is no. You cannot negotiate with people who hold there views you can only surrender. And even if we did that ISIS has made it clear they would still kill all us infidels. However we can contain them and foil their plots we can also educate our young people that this is a death cult. It is sad that a young woman feels this way we just have to hold the line. France has a lot of anger because many do not have jobs are are shunned by the rest of the country. We cannot allow that to happen here and we must integrate them, easier said then done of course. We may not defeat it but I think in time it will reduce in significance.However this relies on the government (any government) having the right policies. What a load of old defeatist bollcks The west (Us) has always colluded/negotiated with radical Islam as long as it suits us. We continually support radical Islam against internal secular democratic movements because democratic movements want to rule their country in their interests and we want to hire any guns available to rule it in our interests. Please read stuff (other than the s***ty papers) before you post stuff.
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Stirlingsays 05 Jun 18 5.04am | |
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Originally posted by Bert the Head
What a load of old defeatist bollcks The west (Us) has always colluded/negotiated with radical Islam as long as it suits us. We continually support radical Islam against internal secular democratic movements because democratic movements want to rule their country in their interests and we want to hire any guns available to rule it in our interests. Please read stuff (other than the s***ty papers) before you post stuff.
Every single state on this god's earth operates in its own self interests.....or in oppressive non democratic states in the interests of its elites. It isn't a criticism to state this. This is a fact of human nature. Hence highlighting the reality that democratic states in the generalised anglosphere will negotiate with, trade with or whatever with states that it is highly opposed to is just a statement of fact. In the case of Saudi for example it's a case of 'the enemy of my enemy'. The US can be criticised for just how much it is favouring one foreign state over another....but essentially it's a judgement with pros and cons. All states work with other states if they regard it as within its self interest. I heard a couple of Chomsky's political lectures and I came away with the impression that he's bright but not very wise. Also totally unrealistic on human nature. Chomsky has some interesting views on economics but essentially he's is a left wing libertarian. A west led by Chomsky would fall.....well it's going to fall anyway given the short termism of most of its politicians but led by him it would fall quite quickly led by his 'pacifist platitudes'. I'm interested in a western future for my children and for my children's children.......So Chomsky can stay in his intellectual ivory tower. A tower that he can only live in because of the kind of people he detests enabled it. I recommend Niall Ferguson. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2018 5.09am)
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PalazioVecchio south pole 05 Jun 18 6.11am | |
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Ferguson has way more to say than Chomsky. The latter whines about what could be / should be. Ferguson uses way better methodology.
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Park Road 05 Jun 18 8.06am | |
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"The worst of beasts, in our view, are the followers of Allah—those who believe in Islam. They’re the ones you make treaties with, but they break those treaties every time because they have no fear of the law.” The statement, of course, is blatantly bigoted hate speech against Muslims. But I didn't write it. It's actually a passage from the Quran, verses 8:55-56, with references to disbelievers replaced by “followers of Allah” and “those who believe in Islam.” Richard Dawkins Edited by Park Road (05 Jun 2018 8.09am)
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Stirlingsays 05 Jun 18 8.53am | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Ferguson has way more to say than Chomsky. The latter whines about what could be / should be. Ferguson uses way better methodology. Seconded my man.
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doi209 Fighting for the weak and innocent... 05 Jun 18 9.50am | |
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To be honest, I thought this subject was about another match of the pre-season tour to Denmark.
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