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europalace Europe 08 May 18 5.38am | |
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"Tax on pensioners proposed to heal inter-generational divide" "It says that all young people should receive a £10,000 windfall at the age of 25 to help pay for a deposit on a home, start a business or improve their education or skills."
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Badger11 Beckenham 08 May 18 8.08am | |
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Originally posted by europalace
"Tax on pensioners proposed to heal inter-generational divide" "It says that all young people should receive a £10,000 windfall at the age of 25 to help pay for a deposit on a home, start a business or improve their education or skills." Flawed solution to a real problem. Some pensioners continue to work because they are still paying off their mortgage or other debts including their children's. So they are to be penalised. Meanwhile some pensioners have a good income and don't need to work and they don't have to pay. It is the same flawed solution to making pensioners pay for their care by taxing their estate when they die. I am retired and have lots of friends who have no savings and live in rented accommodation. For them it was a lifestyle choice, they earned good money and chose to P*** it up against the wall. I choose to buy my home but now I will be penalised whilst they get a freebie. Don't kept me wrong I am willing to pay my share but so should other people unless you are poor. The only fair solution is to increase income tax so we all pay when we earn, after that we can save or spend as we see fit.
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the.universal 08 May 18 8.18am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Flawed solution to a real problem. Some pensioners continue to work because they are still paying off their mortgage or other debts including their children's. So they are to be penalised. Meanwhile some pensioners have a good income and don't need to work and they don't have to pay. It is the same flawed solution to making pensioners pay for their care by taxing their estate when they die. I am retired and have lots of friends who have no savings and live in rented accommodation. For them it was a lifestyle choice, they earned good money and chose to P*** it up against the wall. I choose to buy my home but now I will be penalised whilst they get a freebie. Don't kept me wrong I am willing to pay my share but so should other people unless you are poor. The only fair solution is to increase income tax so we all pay when we earn, after that we can save or spend as we see fit. So, the only fair solution is to tax someone else? I’ve heard that one before. I have some sympathy with pensioners, it must be difficult knowing you’ve had your last pay packet, so it makes sense to want to protect your nest egg. But the fact remains there are many wealthy pensioners nowadays who should be paying more. I’d suggest we need much better means-testing to sort who should pay more.
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 08 May 18 8.35am | |
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Originally posted by the.universal
So, the only fair solution is to tax someone else? I’ve heard that one before. I have some sympathy with pensioners, it must be difficult knowing you’ve had your last pay packet, so it makes sense to want to protect your nest egg. But the fact remains there are many wealthy pensioners nowadays who should be paying more. I’d suggest we need much better means-testing to sort who should pay more. Why should they pay more? They've been paying all their lives.
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Midlands Eagle 08 May 18 8.36am | |
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Originally posted by the.universal
the fact remains there are many wealthy pensioners nowadays who should be paying more. I’d suggest we need much better means-testing to sort who should pay more. I guess that I come within your idea of a wealthy pensioner but a huge chunk of my income already goes to HMRC in the form of income tax. Do you expect me to pay even more?
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aquickgame2 Beni = summer,Caribbean = winter 08 May 18 9.21am | |
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So I've worked all my life,paid into the system,saved a bit for my old age,now some fcker tells me I've got too much and there going to take more. Go fck yourself.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 May 18 9.23am | |
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Originally posted by aquickgame2
So I've worked all my life,paid into the system,saved a bit for my old age,now some fcker tells me I've got too much and there going to take more. Go fck yourself. Indeed ! I am a pensioner but in a fortunate position.There are vast swathes who just live off their monthly pension and find it hard to make ends meet.Ludicrous proposal and not likely to be Government policy. Edited by Willo (08 May 2018 9.25am)
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silvertop Portishead 08 May 18 9.43am | |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Why should they pay more? They've been paying all their lives. and?
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 08 May 18 9.43am | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I guess that I come within your idea of a wealthy pensioner but a huge chunk of my income already goes to HMRC in the form of income tax. Do you expect me to pay even more? Fascist
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silvertop Portishead 08 May 18 9.49am | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
and? By way of clarity, they have paid tax all their life and got public services back in return. Why should they now pay no tax but still enjoy the same services IF (big if) they can afford to pay as much as someone in the working population? What has chronology got do do with anything? As a PS, you are aware that recently the average income for pensioners passed the average income for the waged?
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 08 May 18 10.10am | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
By way of clarity, they have paid tax all their life and got public services back in return. Why should they now pay no tax but still enjoy the same services IF (big if) they can afford to pay as much as someone in the working population? What has chronology got do do with anything? As a PS, you are aware that recently the average income for pensioners passed the average income for the waged? My point is that, having paid tax all their lives, it seems a ridiculous notion that they should now have to pay more just to stick ten grand in the back pockets of kids, a luxury they themselves were not afforded.
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Midlands Eagle 08 May 18 10.27am | |
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I can't see this vote loser ever coming into being as whichever party introduces it will lose the next election. I'm also blowed if I am going to pay extra tax just so that some 25 year old knife wielding drug dealer can have a bonus courtesy of me
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