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Freedom Of Speech In Hyde Park
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 Stirlingsays  06 May 18 5.35pm |
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Today in Hyde park....like the title thread says, we had a series of speeches on freedom of speech.....lovely weather for it. I think it's a rather hot topic....though you wouldn't know about it from the mainstream media who have largely ignored it and those that have referred to it have disgracefully labelled it 'far right'. He is some video for those interested in it. You will see that it isn't 'far right'.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 06 May 18 9.30pm |
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Freedom of speech. The cornerstone of any democracy.
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| Stirlingsays 06 May 18 9.31pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Freedom of speech. The cornerstone of any democracy. Tips hat. We are living in weird times. When I was younger I never thought that I'd need to worry about these things.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 06 May 18 10.07pm |
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censorship = fundamentalist ideology = totalitarianism. Hyde Park has been a basketcase for decades. Its time to take it back from the nutters.
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Park Road  07 May 18 8.57am |
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We must have the freedom to hate.!!
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| Stirlingsays 07 May 18 10.20am |
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The Tory party has to be the mechanism by which freedom of speech is restored. There are far more within it that are willing to listen than are in the modern day Labour party. It can't be done while May is still leader, she and her supporters are a part of the problem.
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 07 May 18 11.39am |
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is it still safe to stand at Speakers corner in Hyde Park and espouse such radical notions as... - freedom of speech safe to say in public, or are you risking your neck to express such radical 'far right' notions ?
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 07 May 18 1.49pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Freedom of speech. The cornerstone of any democracy. I was brought up to believe that Speakers Corner is a place where any moron can say his piece. As such any infringement on the ability to say anything in this particular site is not welcome at all.
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| davidpercival Croydon 07 May 18 1.52pm |
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It is being called a far right demo because that is what it is. What they want is freedom to demonise and abuse groups of people based on their race,religion, sexual orientation or anything else these members of the master race think fit.
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| pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 07 May 18 2.06pm |
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Originally posted by davidpercival
It is being called a far right demo because that is what it is. What they want is freedom to demonise and abuse groups of people based on their race,religion, sexual orientation or anything else these members of the master race think fit. I hear what you are saying but there are 2 places in the UK where should be able to say without libel, one is in the House and for the rest of use it is Speakers' Corner. I do have 2 concerns. 1 If you can't repeat your accusations away from Speakers' Corner, but you should still have the right @ SC. 2 If you prevent others from using the rights of Speakers' Corner by having a demo. Isn't that "British" culture?
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| Stirlingsays 07 May 18 2.08pm |
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Originally posted by davidpercival
It is being called a far right demo because that is what it is. What they want is freedom to demonise and abuse groups of people based on their race,religion, sexual orientation or anything else these members of the master race think fit. If you think that is far right? You very obviously don't know the far right. This 'far right' demo had both homosexuals and transsexuals speak and perform at it. It had people of multiple races speak at it. The real far right call these people degenerates. This is a video of the far right actually talking about this demo. How about you actually watch it so that you know what you're talking about for next time. They start talking about the demo at 2.25 minutes in. Perhaps you're the type of person who believes in the same repression that the soviets believed in and enforced. The type of people you think are far right were the same type of people who actually fought and beat the Nazis from this country and Europe. I want the freedom to call anybody anything I like without the state getting involved. The same as it is in the US.....and you know....pretty much how the law actually was until New Labour changed it. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 May 2018 2.08pm)
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| Stirlingsays 07 May 18 2.18pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
is it still safe to stand at Speakers corner in Hyde Park and espouse such radical notions as... - freedom of speech safe to say in public, or are you risking your neck to express such radical 'far right' notions ? Well, apparently objecting to or criticising things today means you 'hate' them. Most things I actually dislike or wish to criticise I don't hate. Others telling me I 'hate' is so ridiculously childish. If I did or do hate something why am I not allowed to 'hate' it? Words are one thing and actions are another. The far left certainly seem to find no problem thinking they can 'hate' sections of humanity. Hating something isn't particularly nice, but suddenly being told that you can't express your opinion is anti liberal and anti western and no body voted for this. Outside of libel and incitement to violence nobody should be able to negatively impact me for an expressed thought. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 May 2018 2.28pm)
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