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mattteo Flag 23 Apr 18 11.56am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

I think they can do a better job in another environment, I wouldn't really hold them resposible for their teams' downfall.


WBA: Foster, Evans, Gibbs, Livermore, Matt Phillips, Chadli (if injury free cause he hasn't played at all this season), Burke (for the future).

Stoke: Butland, Martins Indi, Badou Ndiaye, Joe Allen, Mame Diouf, Choupo Moting, Shaqiri

Southampton: Forster, Bertrand, Lemina, Ward Prowse, Tadic, Charlie Austin, Carrillo

Swansea: Mawson, Ki Sung Yong, Clucas, Narsingh, Andre Ayew, Tammy Abraham

Huddersfield: Stev Mounie, Alex Pritchard, Mooy, maybe even Tom Ince.

Troyes: Samuel Grandsir

Lille: Amadou, Thiago Mendes, El Ghazi, Nicolas Pepe

Wolfsburg: Bazoer, Renato Steffen, Didavi, Osimhen, Breckalo (these last 2 are for the future)

Mainz: Rene Adler, Brosinski, Gbamin, Oztunali, de Blasis, Muto, Ujah

Freiburg: Yoric Ravet, Nils Petersen

Hamburg: Papadopoulos, Holtby, Hahn, Fiete Arp (for the future)

Koln: Koziello, Jojic, Bittencourt, Osako, even Jhon Cordoba and Guirassy look ok for their age (24 and 22)

Benevento: Cheick Diabate

Udinese: Widmer, Ali Adnan, Jankto, Barak, de Paul, Lasagna, maybe even Perica (for the future)

Deportivo la Coruna: Celso Borges, Fede Cartabia, Emre Colak, Florin Andone, I'd have included Lucas Perez too, but he belongs to Arsenal

Las Palmas: Halilovic (belongs to Hamburg but they're going down too, tough for former Croatian best hope for the future!), Jairo Samperio, Emenike (if he's fit and no more injuries cause he hasn't played at all for them), even Ezekiel as a Frazier Campbell type of sub

Malaga: Lestienne, maybe Brown Ideye, Rolan does not belong to them, En Nesiry (one for the future)

Levante: Ivi, Bardhi, Emmanuel Boateng (well, mot going down after the lastest result, but still a small team which might sell cheaply)

Edited by mattteo (09 May 2018 10.09pm)

 

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pssguy Flag 23 Apr 18 1.33pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

If rumours of their financial situation are correct, WBA are most likely to have a fire-sale

The problem is that their best players are either too old (Foster, Brunt) , going elsewhere(Evans) or not a position we need filling (Gibbs)

From what I've seen of him, Burke is talented - but he cost WBA 15 million, which is a high price for a player with only 2 starts on the bottom team

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Tez Flag Epsom 24 Apr 18 3.09pm Send a Private Message to Tez Add Tez as a friend

Of this entire list, the only one's I'd be interested in seeing us go for (taking into account budget, player ability compared to what we have now, and what we actually need to sign) would be:

Butland
N'diaye or Amadou
Allen
Andre Ayew

 

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hellzdoms Flag London 24 Apr 18 3.40pm Send a Private Message to hellzdoms Add hellzdoms as a friend

Originally posted by Tez

Of this entire list, the only one's I'd be interested in seeing us go for (taking into account budget, player ability compared to what we have now, and what we actually need to sign) would be:

Butland
N'diaye or Amadou
Allen
Andre Ayew

Amadou would be very keen to to come and join us. He was in january thats for sure.

 

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mattteo Flag 24 Apr 18 9.21pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Tez

Of this entire list, the only one's I'd be interested in seeing us go for


Only these ones?

I think all of them are good, I'd like them all. Sute, the young one are not really PL quality right away but they'd be a sure investment for the future

 

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HeathMan Flag Purley 24 Apr 18 9.49pm Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

We have also been fighting relegation. I am sure that Roy has looked at our players and decided who he wants next season (those to keep / those to sell or let go.

We also have two winning squads (under 23 & under 1 which represent sources of young keen players. Wilf & AWB have shown that it is worth giving youth a chance. Looking forward to next season. COYP

 

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ARGILE OLD GEEZER Flag PORTIMAO 25 Apr 18 9.14am Send a Private Message to ARGILE OLD GEEZER Add ARGILE OLD GEEZER as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I think they can do a better job in another environment, I wouldn't really hold them resposible for their teams' downfall.


WBA: Foster, Evans, Gibbs, Livermore, Matt Phillips, Chadli (if injury free cause he hasn't played at all this season), Burke (for the future).

Stoke: Butland, Martins Indi, Badou Ndiaye, Joe Allen, Mame Diouf, Choupo Moting, Shaqiri

Southampton: Forster, Bertrand, Lemina, Ward Prowse, Tadic, Charlie Austin, Carrillo

Swansea: Mawson, Ki Sung Yong, Clucas, Narsingh, Andre Ayew, Tammy Abraham

Troyes: Samuel Grandsir

Lille: Amadou, Thiago Mendes, El Ghazi, Nicolas Pepe

Wolfsburg: Bazoer, Renato Steffen, Didavi, Osimhen, Breckalo (these last 2 are for the future)

Mainz: Rene Adler, Brosinski, Gbamin, Oztunali, de Blasis, Muto, Ujah

Freiburg: Yoric Ravet, Nils Petersen

Hamburg: Papadopoulos, Holtby, Hahn, Fiete Arp (for the future)

Koln: Koziello, Jojic, Bittencourt, Osako, even Jhon Cordoba and Guirassy look ok for their age (24 and 22)

Benevento: Cheick Diabate

Deportivo la Coruna: Celso Borges, Fede Cartabia, Emre Colak, Florin Andone, I'd have included Lucas Perez too, but he belongs to Arsenal

Las Palmas: Halilovic (belongs to Hamburg but they're going down too, tough for former Croatian best hope for the future!), Jairo Samperio, Emenike (if he's fit and no more injuries cause he hasn't played at all for them), even Ezekiel as a Frazier Campbell type of sub

Malaga: Lestienne, maybe Brown Ideye, Rolan does not belong to them, En Nesiry (one for the future)

Levante: Ivi, Bardhi, Emmanuel Boateng (well, mot going down after the lastest result, but still a small team which might sell cheaply)


Edited by mattteo (24 Apr 2018 9.19pm)

 

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ARGILE OLD GEEZER Flag PORTIMAO 25 Apr 18 9.19am Send a Private Message to ARGILE OLD GEEZER Add ARGILE OLD GEEZER as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I think they can do a better job in another environment, I wouldn't really hold them resposible for their teams' downfall.


WBA: Foster, Evans, Gibbs, Livermore, Matt Phillips, Chadli (if injury free cause he hasn't played at all this season), Burke (for the future).

Stoke: Butland, Martins Indi, Badou Ndiaye, Joe Allen, Mame Diouf, Choupo Moting, Shaqiri

Southampton: Forster, Bertrand, Lemina, Ward Prowse, Tadic, Charlie Austin, Carrillo

Swansea: Mawson, Ki Sung Yong, Clucas, Narsingh, Andre Ayew, Tammy Abraham

Troyes: Samuel Grandsir

Lille: Amadou, Thiago Mendes, El Ghazi, Nicolas Pepe

Wolfsburg: Bazoer, Renato Steffen, Didavi, Osimhen, Breckalo (these last 2 are for the future)

Mainz: Rene Adler, Brosinski, Gbamin, Oztunali, de Blasis, Muto, Ujah

Freiburg: Yoric Ravet, Nils Petersen

Hamburg: Papadopoulos, Holtby, Hahn, Fiete Arp (for the future)

Koln: Koziello, Jojic, Bittencourt, Osako, even Jhon Cordoba and Guirassy look ok for their age (24 and 22)

Benevento: Cheick Diabate

Deportivo la Coruna: Celso Borges, Fede Cartabia, Emre Colak, Florin Andone, I'd have included Lucas Perez too, but he belongs to Arsenal

Las Palmas: Halilovic (belongs to Hamburg but they're going down too, tough for former Croatian best hope for the future!), Jairo Samperio, Emenike (if he's fit and no more injuries cause he hasn't played at all for them), even Ezekiel as a Frazier Campbell type of sub

Malaga: Lestienne, maybe Brown Ideye, Rolan does not belong to them, En Nesiry (one for the future)

Levante: Ivi, Bardhi, Emmanuel Boateng (well, mot going down after the lastest result, but still a small team which might sell cheaply)


Edited by mattteo (24 Apr 2018 9.19pm)


When you look at the amount of talented players in the 4 Premiership teams it seems incredible that they a fighting relegation.

 

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Aray Flag South London 25 Apr 18 9.50am Send a Private Message to Aray Add Aray as a friend

Originally posted by ARGILE OLD GEEZER

When you look at the amount of talented players in the 4 Premiership teams it seems incredible that they a fighting relegation.

That's coz the manager is more important. Look at Burnley and Bournemouth.

 

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A89M Flag Streatham 25 Apr 18 10.37am Send a Private Message to A89M Add A89M as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I think they can do a better job in another environment, I wouldn't really hold them resposible for their teams' downfall.


WBA: Foster, Evans, Gibbs, Livermore, Matt Phillips, Chadli (if injury free cause he hasn't played at all this season), Burke (for the future).

Stoke: Butland, Martins Indi, Badou Ndiaye, Joe Allen, Mame Diouf, Choupo Moting, Shaqiri

Southampton: Forster, Bertrand, Lemina, Ward Prowse, Tadic, Charlie Austin, Carrillo

Swansea: Mawson, Ki Sung Yong, Clucas, Narsingh, Andre Ayew, Tammy Abraham

Troyes: Samuel Grandsir

Lille: Amadou, Thiago Mendes, El Ghazi, Nicolas Pepe

Wolfsburg: Bazoer, Renato Steffen, Didavi, Osimhen, Breckalo (these last 2 are for the future)

Mainz: Rene Adler, Brosinski, Gbamin, Oztunali, de Blasis, Muto, Ujah

Freiburg: Yoric Ravet, Nils Petersen

Hamburg: Papadopoulos, Holtby, Hahn, Fiete Arp (for the future)

Koln: Koziello, Jojic, Bittencourt, Osako, even Jhon Cordoba and Guirassy look ok for their age (24 and 22)

Benevento: Cheick Diabate

Deportivo la Coruna: Celso Borges, Fede Cartabia, Emre Colak, Florin Andone, I'd have included Lucas Perez too, but he belongs to Arsenal

Las Palmas: Halilovic (belongs to Hamburg but they're going down too, tough for former Croatian best hope for the future!), Jairo Samperio, Emenike (if he's fit and no more injuries cause he hasn't played at all for them), even Ezekiel as a Frazier Campbell type of sub

Malaga: Lestienne, maybe Brown Ideye, Rolan does not belong to them, En Nesiry (one for the future)

Levante: Ivi, Bardhi, Emmanuel Boateng (well, mot going down after the lastest result, but still a small team which might sell cheaply)


Edited by mattteo (24 Apr 2018 9.19pm)

I like a few of the above but the highlighted I would not want anywhere near our squad. He has missed a sitter in each of the last 3 games for Stoke in moments where it could of wrapped up the 3 points.

 

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mattteo Flag 25 Apr 18 3.37pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by ARGILE OLD GEEZER


When you look at the amount of talented players in the 4 Premiership teams it seems incredible that they a fighting relegation.


Well, there a some logical explanations:


WBA: Chadli (arguably their most important man in their 10 place finish last year) hasn't played at all all season. Livermore is just a defensive midfielder. Burke has hardly played, they deemed him too young. Matt Phillips had to carry everything by himself and had a moderate to modest season. Couple that with the fact that the other offensive players were average or pretty poor (McClean, Rondon, Jay Rodriguez) and they couldn't guarantee enough goals up front.

Stoke: N'diaye has just come in the winter. They were playing chubby Charlie Adam there until then. Many player are too old, too big and too slow for top tier football anymore (Pieters, Adam, even Shawcross). Mame Diouf has been used as a right midfielder or right wingback most of the season, a position from which he can't really do much. Shaqiri has been good but on his own can't do everything. Choupo Moting has been pretty good too (better than Benteke anyway)

Southampton: Tadic (who was their best player the last 3 seasons) has had a mediocre season. Charlie Austin has been outstanding up until his injury. Carrillo has come in the winter, hasn't really settled in, he needs time. Shane Long used to be very good but he's now past 30 and has become quite average.

Swansea: the haven't even used Narsingh much (idiots), Andre Ayew and Clucas are winter signings (and they uped the game, though Clucas is not a game changer, just a hard working midfielder), Tammy Abraham is good for his age, but not entirely developed as a striker.

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 25 Apr 18 7.19pm

No mention of Nathan Redmond?

 


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