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nickyf 03 Apr 18 6.44pm Send a Private Message to nickyf Add nickyf as a friend

Just had a 4 day visit in France shops seemed to be shut most of the Easter weekend, opened at 8.30am closed by 12 mid day

Compared to the UK they seem to be behind

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 03 Apr 18 6.55pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Our economy is consumer driven which is the bigger mistake.

 


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.TUX. Flag 03 Apr 18 7.22pm

They need the time to go snail-catching.
They're speedy little buggers.......if you're a Frenchman.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 03 Apr 18 7.42pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

The frogs behind? Sounds like the opposite to me.

I think the only reason the shops may open in the morning is for the frog 'baguette' which does not last long.

Work to live, don't live to work........

 

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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 03 Apr 18 7.48pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by nickyf

Just had a 4 day visit in France shops seemed to be shut most of the Easter weekend, opened at 8.30am closed by 12 mid day

Compared to the UK they seem to be behind

and they open again at 2pm, they like a long lunch hour over there. They work to live, not live to work like the English

Edited by the silurian (03 Apr 2018 7.49pm)

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 03 Apr 18 8.52pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

and they open again at 2pm, they like a long lunch hour over there. They work to live, not live to work like the English

Edited by the silurian (03 Apr 2018 7.49pm)

This may all change. Macron is determined to push ahead and relax French labour laws starting with the railways which are massively in debt. The workers enjoy incredible perks and cannot be sacked. This is his Thatcher moment if the workers win he is finished as reform was a key plank in his program. I saw an article explaining the railway workers perks but I can't find it.

Anyway the French are revolting.

 


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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 03 Apr 18 8.55pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

This may all change. Macron is determined to push ahead and relax French labour laws starting with the railways which are massively in debt. The workers enjoy incredible perks and cannot be sacked. This is his Thatcher moment if the workers win he is finished as reform was a key plank in his program. I saw an article explaining the railway workers perks but I can't find it.

Anyway the French are revolting.


train drivers have guaranteed jobs for life, guaranteed pay rises and retire at 52 amongst their perks!!

 

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the.universal 03 Apr 18 10.08pm Send a Private Message to the.universal Add the.universal as a friend

You could argue the UK is not the best template for working hours. Even more so the US, where work commitment could be seen to fill the gap previously taken by religion.

But fair play to Macron, and the French for electing him. Change will happen, retiring at 52 is not sustainable. It’s just a case of long and slow (UK pensions) or quick and deep (Greek pensions). Both are hard to bear, but the former at least gives more time to plan.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 03 Apr 18 10.56pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

The frogs behind? Sounds like the opposite to me.

I think the only reason the shops may open in the morning is for the frog 'baguette' which does not last long.

Work to live, don't live to work........

Agreed!

 

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chateauferret Flag 03 Apr 18 11.41pm

It's the First Commandment of the French innit.

Tu ne travailleras pas.

 


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europalace Flag Europe 04 Apr 18 6.17am Send a Private Message to europalace Add europalace as a friend

The French have a higher productivity level than the UK, around 20% higher. They are also have one of the lowest levels of 'unionisation' in Europe.


Edited by europalace (04 Apr 2018 6.18am)

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Apr 18 8.18am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by europalace

The French have a higher productivity level than the UK, around 20% higher. They are also have one of the lowest levels of 'unionisation' in Europe.


Edited by europalace (04 Apr 2018 6.18am)

I heard that yesterday I think its 11% quite surprising really as I would have thought it would be higher as they always seems to strike. Regarding productivity and without evidence I am suspicious about these numbers. Apparently not all governments use the same methodology and in some case I wonder if there is outright cheating ALA Greece.

I have seen productivity league tables where countries you would not associate with efficiency and hard work are better than us. It does make you wonder.

I do think we have a problem with productivity but I wonder if other countries are fudging their numbers.

 


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