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Double-barrelled surnames
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 Bogeyman  Falmouth, Cornwall 18 Mar 18 12.46am |
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With Fosou-Mensah and Loftus-Cheek returning to fitness, and the magnificent Wan-Bissaka now establishing himself in the starting eleven, there is now the genuine prospect of three players appearing on the pitch at the same time with double-barrelled surnames! Is this a new world record? I think this merits serious and careful research... (not to mention Van Aanholt! Strictly speaking, not a double-barrelled surname, but not far off!)
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| dreamwaverider London 18 Mar 18 3.34am |
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Surprised the PC brigade don’t have a pop at this one.
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| bmouth eagle Carshalton 18 Mar 18 6.48am |
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If you look at the young England sides that did so well recently, they are filled with double-barreled names. There seems to be a massive trend with young British families adopting a double-barrel instead of one surname. Calvert-Lewin, Maitland-Niles, Ward-Prowse, Alexander-Arnold, Walker-Peters, Carter-Vickers are a few other examples.
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 becky over the moon 18 Mar 18 8.15am |
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b******s the lot of them.......in a genealogical sense. Once double barrelled names were the prerogative of the titled and upper classes, where the practice was adopted to prevent old dynastical names from dying out when there was no male heir to carry it on, or one male inherited two equal titles from either side of a family. Nowadays, it is usually used by unmarried partnerships to equally recognise both parents, and also prevents problems with differing parent/child surnames at school etc.
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| Midlands Eagle 18 Mar 18 8.19am |
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Originally posted by becky
Nowadays, it is usually used by unmarried partnerships to equally recognise both parents, and also prevents problems with differing parent/child surnames at school etc. So what would happen if Fosu-Mensah married Loftus-Cheek's sister? Would their offsprings be Fosu-Mensah-Loftus-Cheek?
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| ripleyeagle Ripley Surrey 18 Mar 18 9.29am |
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Originally posted by bmouth eagle
If you look at the young England sides that did so well recently, they are filled with double-barreled names. There seems to be a massive trend with young British families adopting a double-barrel instead of one surname. Calvert-Lewin, Maitland-Niles, Ward-Prowse, Alexander-Arnold, Walker-Peters, Carter-Vickers are a few other examples. I hate to say this but this over use of double-barrel surnames smacks of self importance from people who probably shop at Aldi.Not politically correct but hey ho.
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| Adam_Eagle MK 18 Mar 18 10.30am |
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I hate them, sounds so poncy
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pstrutt  Busselton, WA 18 Mar 18 10.32am |
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Originally posted by ripleyeagle
I hate to say this but this over use of double-barrel surnames smacks of self importance from people who probably shop at Aldi.Not politically correct but hey ho. All women who work in HR with DB names are impossible to please.
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| Pete53 Hassocks 18 Mar 18 10.58am |
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Does anyone remember Forbes Phillipson-Masters who played in the 1970s? That was a name and a half, particularly for a footballer.
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| becky over the moon 18 Mar 18 11.04am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
So what would happen if Fosu-Mensah married Loftus-Cheek's sister? Would their offsprings be Fosu-Mensah-Loftus-Cheek? Probably...... until Mrs. Fosu-Mensah-Loftus-Cheek had to write and sew all the name tapes into the FMLC juniors' school stuff
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chateauferret  18 Mar 18 11.11am |
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Originally posted by becky
b******s the lot of them.......in a genealogical sense. Once double barrelled names were the prerogative of the titled and upper classes, where the practice was adopted to prevent old dynastical names from dying out when there was no male heir to carry it on, or one male inherited two equal titles from either side of a family. Nowadays, it is usually used by unmarried partnerships to equally recognise both parents, and also prevents problems with differing parent/child surnames at school etc. Not all cultures and languages derive surnames and second names in the same way. The rules for calculating someone's surname in Spanish have a similar objective but are quite complicated. And if you're Icelandic you don't have a surname at all: you have a patronymic only, and your children get your name as a patronymic, and so on. So in the case of Gylfi Sigurdhsson for example that isn't a family name at all. Sometimes Icelanders who go abroad break that tradition, as in the case of Magnus Magnusson's daughter who ought to be called Magnusdottir. But anyway. You're allowed to change your name and call yourself whatever you want. Some footballers have pseudonyms. I once worked in a business where we had a customer who didn't want to work and got fed up with the Job Centre sending him for interviews, so in order to make sure nobody they sent him to ever offered him employment he changed his surname by deed poll to "Toilet-Seat".
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| eddiqc Tunbridge wells 18 Mar 18 11.26am |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
I once worked in a business where we had a customer who didn't want to work and got fed up with the Job Centre sending him for interviews, so in order to make sure nobody they sent him to ever offered him employment he changed his surname by deed poll to "Toilet-Seat". Those are the kind of people who should be drinking bleach on a daily basis.
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