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 Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 06 Feb 18 10.57pm |
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I'm not really a Space geek but this is cool. Free enterprise works Baby !!
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YT  Oxford 06 Feb 18 11.05pm |
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Didn't she win an Oscar for her role in 'Coal Miners' Daughter'?
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| Stuk Top half 06 Feb 18 11.06pm |
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It is but putting s*** in space for the sake of it is a bit retarded, we're polluting off planet. ISS gets rear ended by space borne Tesla.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Feb 18 12.41am |
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I'm a Musk fan but private can't match public when it comes to space. The moon landings would never have happened without that massive collective effort in the mid and late sixties. Humans aren't getting to and staying on Mars without something similar. Not that I think the Mars focus is necessarily the right focus.
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| Stuk Top half 07 Feb 18 1.41pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm a Musk fan but private can't match public when it comes to space. The moon landings would never have happened without that massive collective effort in the mid and late sixties. Humans aren't getting to and staying on Mars without something similar. Not that I think the Mars focus is necessarily the right focus. He is kicking their arse. This has just made NASA's heavy loader obsolete before they even built it, for a billion dollars! The two boosters that landed together was very impressive. Shame they didn't show the 3rd one that crashed into the ocean at 500 km/h! Still 2 outta 3 ain't bad, to quote Meat Loaf.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 07 Feb 18 2.21pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
He is kicking their arse. This has just made NASA's heavy loader obsolete before they even built it, for a billion dollars! The two boosters that landed together was very impressive. Shame they didn't show the 3rd one that crashed into the ocean at 500 km/h! Still 2 outta 3 ain't bad, to quote Meat Loaf.
Mind you Nasa must be happy, as it would surely now save them wasting any more money?
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| Stirlingsays 07 Feb 18 2.59pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
He is kicking their arse. This has just made NASA's heavy loader obsolete before they even built it, for a billion dollars! The two boosters that landed together was very impressive. Shame they didn't show the 3rd one that crashed into the ocean at 500 km/h! Still 2 outta 3 ain't bad, to quote Meat Loaf. That's nonsense....and I say that as a Musk fan. The James Webb telescope kicks all this into insignificance in comparison. Doesn't even come close. Musk and SpaceX are useful additions to the drive but Nasa are leagues ahead for very obvious reasons. If Musk and co are improving rocket technology beyond Nasa then great.....but this is only a sector when it comes to space. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Feb 2018 3.00pm)
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| Stuk Top half 07 Feb 18 3.17pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
That's nonsense....and I say that as a Musk fan. The James Webb telescope kicks all this into insignificance in comparison. Doesn't even come close. Musk and SpaceX are useful additions to the drive but Nasa are leagues ahead for very obvious reasons. If Musk and co are improving rocket technology beyond Nasa then great.....but this is only a sector when it comes to space. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Feb 2018 3.00pm) They'd have saved a fortune on that if it was designed to go up in the loader SpaceX just launched. Instead it's having to be designed to fold up on itself as NASA do not yet have a loader large enough to take it up ready-to go. Nearly a billion dollar saving per flight, think about that in competitive terms.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Feb 18 5.37pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
They'd have saved a fortune on that if it was designed to go up in the loader SpaceX just launched. Instead it's having to be designed to fold up on itself as NASA do not yet have a loader large enough to take it up ready-to go. Nearly a billion dollar saving per flight, think about that in competitive terms. Sure it's progress for the future that I'm sure institutions like Nasa will copy.....though the extent of safe reuseability is yet to be ascertained. The private sector couldn't have got to the moon like America did in the sixties.....that required the access to taxpayer budgets like the Americans gave it.....lets remember that SpaceX are not making significant money and indeed have registered losses. Companies like SpaceX and Musk in general are complimentary in my view. If the human race is progressed that's what matters. However we mustn't leave space to the private sector or countries like China will overtake the west.
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| Stuk Top half 07 Feb 18 5.50pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Sure it's progress for the future that I'm sure institutions like Nasa will copy.....though the extent of safe reuseability is yet to be ascertained. The private sector couldn't have got to the moon like America did in the sixties.....that required the access to taxpayer budgets like the Americans gave it.....lets remember that SpaceX are not making significant money and indeed have registered losses. Companies like SpaceX and Musk in general are complimentary in my view. If the human race is progressed that's what matters. However we mustn't leave space to the private sector or countries like China will overtake the west.
"You've been a very good boy, NASA". He is streaks ahead of anything NASA have done in terms of safe reusable components, and they had a half century head start. No one could've competed with government funding or technology back then, but they certainly can now, and they won't carry on making losses on the trajectory that they're on.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Feb 18 6.01pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
"You've been a very good boy, NASA". He is streaks ahead of anything NASA have done in terms of safe reusable components, and they had a half century head start. No one could've competed with government funding or technology back then, but they certainly can now, and they won't carry on making losses on the trajectory that they're on. Well yeah, but Musk and co were standing on the shoulders of Nasa's achievements.....so it can't really be divorced that easily. If the private sector hadn't been encouraged since Reagan's time Musk and his engineers would most probably be working in Nasa anyway......It's because the US had been looking to reduce Nasa budgets since Challenger that this direction has been taken. As long as all roads lead to Rome and the best science is being done in the west.....that's essentially all that matters to me.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 07 Feb 18 9.33pm |
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If you haven't already seen it, this is well with a watch. Elon Musk's plan for getting to Mars
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