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mattteo 27 Jan 18 9.06am | |
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The inevitable will happen (probably in the summer) and Zaha will leave Crystal Palace. As he's been like 30-40% of the team, it will be a monumental task to replace him. Sure, a lot of money will be made from his sale. What can be bought with them? I can think of only Quincy Promes of Spartak Moscow who is a certainty of success from the players the club could attract. The best player in the Russian League 2 years in a row, Netherlands national team starter too (yes, they failed to qualify, but they're definitely not a bad team, finished tied with Sweden in second place), he's 26. There are many teams from the PL interested, with Liverpool not quite sure and Southampton willing to splash between 20 and 30 million. Other players who could replace Zaha (the same playing style- powerful, fast, capable of playing both sides of the pitch): Pione Sisto (Celta Vigo)- but he looks destined for Barca and Real at the way he's playing right now in Spain, hard to attract him Memphis Depay (Lyon)- another Dutch player doing well in France (did you see that recent goal against PSG? [Link] But he has played in the PL and has had some problems coping with the speed and physicality (though he was very young at Man Utd) Ivan Cavaleiro (Wolverhampton)- on his way up with the team, a capable, strong winger, but is he really Zaha level? Patrick Hermann & Vicenzo Grifo (Moenchengladbach)- both have had amazing seasons at low table teams in Germany, with Gladbach missig out on Europa League spots and a plethora of wingers in their team, they could be bought rather cheap. Bruma (Red Bull Leipzig)- he's more diminutive than the others, played well for Galatasaray, but does he have the strength to cope in the PL? Also, getting players from Leipzig is extremely hard. They have money. It was very difficult even for Liverpool to buy Naby Keita from them. Michail Antonio (West Ham)- I think this one would be a pretty exact replacement for Zaha. He has been very good for West Ham the previous seasons. He;s having a rather poor season now, but it can't take away his credits. They'd be stupid enough to sell for about 30 million cause Moyes is kind of unhappy with him (though he has always forced Antonio as a center forward this season, not his normal position). He's proven in the PL, wouldn't be a bad option. Only bad thing is that he's 2 years older than Zaha, I'd prefer a younger, hungrier player for the years to come. It wouldn't be a transfer for just 2 years. Luciano Narsingh (Swansea)- I've suggested this cheap option before. He doesn't get playing time for Swansea (God knows why, cause he's been good when he came on, used to be great for the Dutch national team and PSV), he's still just 27, no major injuries, I'd snap him up. But Zaha level? Maybe, but unsure Matt Phillips (West Brom)- there's been talk this transfer period too. A decent player, strong, fast. But as good as Zaha? No, definitely not. Pretty expensive too. Ola John (Benfica)- another player who would cost very little, Benfica not using him. He used to be a great promise, has stagnated lately. But he's still pretty young. He couldn't be a Zaha though, maybe in time, but it's unknown Eljero Elia (Basaksehir)- Another player from the Dutch school of wingers (they do make very good wingers). He's in Turkey now, making a lot of money after he had a great title winning season with Feyenoord in the Netherlands. He was a very big promise, but didnlt pull through at Juventus or in the Bundesliga. He's probably too old now at 31. I think Nathan Redmond has pretty much shown that he is not on par with the likes of Zaha. He has played a lot for Southampton, but never managed to do much on the pitch. Andre Schurrle could be another option. Established player internationally, I could see him thriving in the PL, he likes spaces. Borussia would be willing to loan him this winter with an option to buy if he settles in. But would he want to come to Palace? There are many big names interested in him.
I'd like to know which other players have you identified that could replace Zaha, having the same playing style and being able to provide just as much as he does Edited by mattteo (27 Jan 2018 1.02pm)
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miles18 Telford 27 Jan 18 9.14am | |
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Zaha will still be a Palace player next season.
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beak croydon 27 Jan 18 10.08am | |
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Originally posted by miles18
Zaha will still be a Palace player next season. ....and you know this because?????
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MKCPFC Spain/MK 27 Jan 18 10.18am | |
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Originally posted by beak
....and you know this because????? ....And how does the OP know it is inevitable that Zaha will leave ?????
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miles18 Telford 27 Jan 18 10.43am | |
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Originally posted by beak
....and you know this because????? Roy will stay and we will build a decent SQUAD and not just a decent first 11 when fit. Roy will finally make us a decent Prem team and Zaha will be a massive part of it.
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Icepick Tony Chester 27 Jan 18 10.48am | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
The inevitable will happen (probably in the summer) and Zaha will leave Crystal Palace. As he's been like 30-40% of the team, it will be a monumental task to replace him. Sure, a lot of money will be made from his sale. What can be bought with them? I can think of only Quincy Promes of Spartak Moscow who is a certainty of success from the players the club could attract. The best player in the Russian League 2 years in a row, Netherlands national team starter too (yes, they failed to qualify, but they're definitely not a bad team, finished tied with Sweden in second place), he's 26. There are many teams from the PL interested, with Liverpool not quite sure and Southampton willing to splash between 20 and 30 million. Other players who could replace Zaha (the same playing style- powerful, fast, capable of playing both sides of the pitch): Pione Sisto (Celta Vigo)- but he looks destined for Barca and Real at the way he's playing right now in Spain, hard to attract him Memphis Depay (Lyon)- another Dutch player doing well in France (did you see that recent goal against PSG? [Link] But he has played in the PL and has had some problems coping with the speed and physicality (though he was very young at Man Utd) Ivan Cavaleiro (Wolverhampton)- on his way up with the team, a capable, strong winger, but is he really Zaha level? Patrick Hermann & Vicenzo Grifo (Moenchengladbach)- both have had amazing seasons at low table teams in Germany, with Gladbach missig out on Europa League spots and a plethora of wingers in their team, they could be bought rather cheap. Bruma (Red Bull Leipzig)- he's more diminutive than the others, played well for Galatasaray, but does he have the strength to cope in the PL? Also, getting players from Leipzig is extremely hard. They have money. It was very difficult even for Liverpool to buy Naby Keita from them. Michail Antonio (West Ham)- I think this one would be a pretty exact replacement for Zaha. He has been very good for West Ham the previous seasons. He;s having a rather poor season now, but it can't take away his credits. They'd be stupid enough to sell for about 30 million cause Moyes is kind of unhappy with him (though he has always forced Antonio as a center forward this season, not his normal position). He's proven in the PL, wouldn't be a good option. Only bad thing is that he's 2 years older than Zaha, I'd prefer a younger, hungrier player for the years to come. It wouldn't be a transfer for just 2 years. Luciano Narsingh (Swansea)- I've suggested this cheap option before. He doesn't get playing time for Swansea (God knows why, cause he's been good when he came on, used to be great for the Dutch national team and PSV), he's still just 27, no major injuries, I'd snap him up. But Zaha level? Maybe, but unsure Matt Phillips (West Brom)- there's been talk this transfer period too. A decent player, strong, fast. But as good as Zaha? No, definitely not. Pretty expensive too. Ola John (Benfica)- another player who would cost very little, Benfica not using him. He used to be a great promise, has stagnated lately. But he's still pretty young. He couldn't be a Zaha though, maybe in time, but it;s unknown Eljero Elia (Basaksehir)- Another player from the Dutch school of wingers (they do make very good wingers). He's in Turkey now, making a lot of money after he had a great title winning season with Feyenoord in the Netherlands. He was a very big promise, but didnlt pull through at Juventus or in the Bundesliga. He's probably too old now at 31. Players like Lucas Vasquez, Deulofeu, Theo Walcott, Lucas Moura, Felipe Anderson wouldn't want to come to a team like Crystal Palace, they'd have better options for their careers.
I'd like to know which other players have you identified that could replace Zaha, having the same playing style and being able to provide just as much as he does When Zaha goes, which will be inevitable at some point, it will be impossible to replace him. The reason I say this is not because of his talent but because of his obvious love for the club too. He is red and blue, a product of our academy and is relied on by fans and teammates to drive the team. He has been injury free pretty much all his career which has been a massive bonus for us too. When it does happen we will need to look for 2 or 3 players to add depth to the squad and give us different options, looking for a like-for-like is a pretty pointless task.
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Spiderman Horsham 27 Jan 18 12.10pm | |
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Originally posted by MKCPFC
....And how does the OP know it is inevitable that Zaha will leave ????? Because he is Matteo he knows everything and the rest of us know f all
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Spiderman Horsham 27 Jan 18 12.14pm | |
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Can I just ask why people think it is inevitable that Zaha will leave? If we are relegated I would agree but if we become well established and start to challenge for cups (or even Europe) why would he leave he club he loves, is earning excellent money and his family are settled in the area?
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Icepick Tony Chester 27 Jan 18 12.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Can I just ask why people think it is inevitable that Zaha will leave? If we are relegated I would agree but if we become well established and start to challenge for cups (or even Europe) why would he leave he club he loves, is earning excellent money and his family are settled in the area? Whilst I don't want him to go, I think there is only so far we can go and only so far we can take him. The lure of big clubs will eventually drag him away and tbh he has earned it. If he stays and is our talisman for years then I'll be over the moon but it just doesn't happen that often in football for a club of our size.
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Spiderman Horsham 27 Jan 18 12.22pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
The inevitable will happen (probably in the summer) and Zaha will leave Crystal Palace. As he's been like 30-40% of the team, it will be a monumental task to replace him. Sure, a lot of money will be made from his sale. What can be bought with them? I can think of only Quincy Promes of Spartak Moscow who is a certainty of success from the players the club could attract. The best player in the Russian League 2 years in a row, Netherlands national team starter too (yes, they failed to qualify, but they're definitely not a bad team, finished tied with Sweden in second place), he's 26. There are many teams from the PL interested, with Liverpool not quite sure and Southampton willing to splash between 20 and 30 million. Other players who could replace Zaha (the same playing style- powerful, fast, capable of playing both sides of the pitch): Pione Sisto (Celta Vigo)- but he looks destined for Barca and Real at the way he's playing right now in Spain, hard to attract him Memphis Depay (Lyon)- another Dutch player doing well in France (did you see that recent goal against PSG? [Link] But he has played in the PL and has had some problems coping with the speed and physicality (though he was very young at Man Utd) Ivan Cavaleiro (Wolverhampton)- on his way up with the team, a capable, strong winger, but is he really Zaha level? Patrick Hermann & Vicenzo Grifo (Moenchengladbach)- both have had amazing seasons at low table teams in Germany, with Gladbach missig out on Europa League spots and a plethora of wingers in their team, they could be bought rather cheap. Bruma (Red Bull Leipzig)- he's more diminutive than the others, played well for Galatasaray, but does he have the strength to cope in the PL? Also, getting players from Leipzig is extremely hard. They have money. It was very difficult even for Liverpool to buy Naby Keita from them. Michail Antonio (West Ham)- I think this one would be a pretty exact replacement for Zaha. He has been very good for West Ham the previous seasons. He;s having a rather poor season now, but it can't take away his credits. They'd be stupid enough to sell for about 30 million cause Moyes is kind of unhappy with him (though he has always forced Antonio as a center forward this season, not his normal position). He's proven in the PL, wouldn't be a good option. Only bad thing is that he's 2 years older than Zaha, I'd prefer a younger, hungrier player for the years to come. It wouldn't be a transfer for just 2 years. Luciano Narsingh (Swansea)- I've suggested this cheap option before. He doesn't get playing time for Swansea (God knows why, cause he's been good when he came on, used to be great for the Dutch national team and PSV), he's still just 27, no major injuries, I'd snap him up. But Zaha level? Maybe, but unsure Matt Phillips (West Brom)- there's been talk this transfer period too. A decent player, strong, fast. But as good as Zaha? No, definitely not. Pretty expensive too. Ola John (Benfica)- another player who would cost very little, Benfica not using him. He used to be a great promise, has stagnated lately. But he's still pretty young. He couldn't be a Zaha though, maybe in time, but it;s unknown Eljero Elia (Basaksehir)- Another player from the Dutch school of wingers (they do make very good wingers). He's in Turkey now, making a lot of money after he had a great title winning season with Feyenoord in the Netherlands. He was a very big promise, but didnlt pull through at Juventus or in the Bundesliga. He's probably too old now at 31. Players like Lucas Vasquez, Deulofeu, Theo Walcott, Lucas Moura, Felipe Anderson wouldn't want to come to a team like Crystal Palace, they'd have better options for their careers.
I'd like to know which other players have you identified that could replace Zaha, having the same playing style and being able to provide just as much as he does But you don't/won't accept this about Benteke. Interesting and quite amusing
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Direwolf Lincoln 27 Jan 18 12.51pm | |
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What about Matt Ritchie - not a replacement for Wilf maybe but a half decent winger. Presumably he'll want to move on if Newcastle go down. Can play on both sides. Not having a good goal scoring season but 6 assists.
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mattteo 27 Jan 18 5.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Direwolf
What about Matt Ritchie - not a replacement for Wilf maybe but a half decent winger. Presumably he'll want to move on if Newcastle go down. Can play on both sides. Not having a good goal scoring season but 6 assists. Yes, a good shout.Has a similar tenacity and determination as Zaha, runs a lot, likes to fight his opponent, but is more diminutive than the tall Wilf. 1. As good as he's been in the Championship, he's not as good as Zaha in the PL. 2. He's left footed, which in my opinion would make him an exact competition for Townsend, not for Zaha. He has been a starter this season for Newcastle. Has only lost the first 11 the last match I think, probably because Rafa Benitez doesn't even know he's their best assister this season.
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