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chelys London 09 Jan 18 6.11pm
[Link] Richard Branson is stopping the Daily Mail being sold on his trains because "it is not compatible with our beliefs". I guess he means him being a leading capitalist in the UK and a significant user of tax havens? Edited by chelys (09 Jan 2018 6.13pm)
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chelys

London 09 Jan 18 6.11pm

Richard Branson is stopping the Daily Mail being sold on his trains because "it is not compatible with our beliefs". I guess he means him being a leading capitalist in the UK and a significant user of tax havens?

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johnno42000 09 Jan 18 6.13pm
Originally posted by chelys [Link] Richard Branson is stopping the Daily Mail being sold on his trains because "it is not compatible with our belief". I guess he means him being a leading capitalist in the UK and a significant user of tax havens? No, it's just not soft enough to use when they run out of bog paper. 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'
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johnno42000

09 Jan 18 6.13pm

Originally posted by chelys

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Richard Branson is stopping the Daily Mail being sold on his trains because "it is not compatible with our belief". I guess he means him being a leading capitalist in the UK and a significant user of tax havens?

No, it's just not soft enough to use when they run out of bog paper.

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 09 Jan 18 7.42pm
Originally posted by chelys [Link] Richard Branson is stopping the Daily Mail being sold on his trains because "it is not compatible with our beliefs". I guess he means him being a leading capitalist in the UK and a significant user of tax havens? Edited by chelys (09 Jan 2018 6.13pm) 10/10. I guess Branson is more of your EU-friendly, equal-opportunities tax-avoiding devourer of public sector contracts. Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)
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Mr_Gristle

In the land of Whelk Eaters 09 Jan 18 7.42pm

Originally posted by chelys

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Edited by chelys (09 Jan 2018 6.13pm)

10/10. I guess Branson is more of your EU-friendly, equal-opportunities tax-avoiding devourer of public sector contracts.

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

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YT Oxford 09 Jan 18 7.46pm
Virgin trains to do what? Oh no; sorry... Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 09 Jan 18 7.46pm

Virgin trains to do what? Oh no; sorry...

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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matt_himself Matataland 09 Jan 18 8.13pm
A Branson publicity stunt. He is a world class self promoter and this is the latest in a long line of similar stunts. This doesn’t make him a bad person but as I instinctively am against censorship, oppose this move. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 09 Jan 18 8.13pm

A Branson publicity stunt.

He is a world class self promoter and this is the latest in a long line of similar stunts.

This doesn’t make him a bad person but as I instinctively am against censorship, oppose this move.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 10 Jan 18 10.10am
Originally posted by matt_himself A Branson publicity stunt. He is a world class self promoter and this is the latest in a long line of similar stunts. It is more to do with the fact that they only sold 70 copies a day, equivalent to one every four trains. He has just spun it to make it look at if it is for moral reasons, and to get his face in the papers. I'm surprised that they sell any newspapers on-board anymore. It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.
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topcat

Holmesdale / Surbiton 10 Jan 18 10.10am

Originally posted by matt_himself

A Branson publicity stunt.

He is a world class self promoter and this is the latest in a long line of similar stunts.

It is more to do with the fact that they only sold 70 copies a day, equivalent to one every four trains. He has just spun it to make it look at if it is for moral reasons, and to get his face in the papers.

I'm surprised that they sell any newspapers on-board anymore.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark... and we're wearing sunglasses.

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Badger11 Beckenham 10 Jan 18 10.29am
Originally posted by topcat It is more to do with the fact that they only sold 70 copies a day, equivalent to one every four trains. He has just spun it to make it look at if it is for moral reasons, and to get his face in the papers. I'm surprised that they sell any newspapers on-board anymore. Agreed. My default position is to defend free speech. I do not believe that is the issue here. Branson can sell what he likes. If people are really that concerned then I suggest they buy a copy of the Mail at the station and waive it under the noses of the Virgin crew. As to motives both Branson and the Daily Mail have agendas. Both are political, additionally the Mail is trying to play the victim as like most newspapers their circulation is falling. I rarely buy a paper these days and I suspect that goes for a lot of people. As Corbyn proved at the last election the papers are no longer the dominant media for influencing people and social media is just as important. In the not too distant future I can see some well known papers going to the wall. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 10 Jan 18 10.29am

Originally posted by topcat

I'm surprised that they sell any newspapers on-board anymore.

Agreed. My default position is to defend free speech. I do not believe that is the issue here. Branson can sell what he likes. If people are really that concerned then I suggest they buy a copy of the Mail at the station and waive it under the noses of the Virgin crew.

As to motives both Branson and the Daily Mail have agendas. Both are political, additionally the Mail is trying to play the victim as like most newspapers their circulation is falling. I rarely buy a paper these days and I suspect that goes for a lot of people.

As Corbyn proved at the last election the papers are no longer the dominant media for influencing people and social media is just as important. In the not too distant future I can see some well known papers going to the wall.

One more point

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kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 14 Jan 18 11.06pm
Sadly, newspapers in the UK is following the trend in the US. New York, the American city, has four dailies (Times, Daily News, Post, Journal), two of which are more national/international in their outlook. Los Angeles has one, Chicago, Boston and DC have 2 while cities like Philadelphia have 2 but they're both owned by the same company. The future of newspapers seems to be digital. The New York Daily News plans to end printed editions in the next year to 18 months while others throughout the country will follow suit. Divorced...And LOVING it! VJRAM Rev. CPFC since Boxing Day 1989 CPFC 2-2 CFC Gregg Berhalter, US International & USMNT Head Coach Jill Ellis, England International & Retired USWNT Head Coach Trevor Francis, International PRAT
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kenbarr

Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 14 Jan 18 11.06pm

Sadly, newspapers in the UK is following the trend in the US. New York, the American city, has four dailies (Times, Daily News, Post, Journal), two of which are more national/international in their outlook. Los Angeles has one, Chicago, Boston and DC have 2 while cities like Philadelphia have 2 but they're both owned by the same company. The future of newspapers seems to be digital. The New York Daily News plans to end printed editions in the next year to 18 months while others throughout the country will follow suit.

Divorced...And LOVING it!
VJRAM Rev.
CPFC since Boxing Day 1989 CPFC 2-2 CFC
Gregg Berhalter, US International & USMNT Head Coach
Jill Ellis, England International & Retired USWNT Head Coach
Trevor Francis, International PRAT

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Jan 18 11.12pm
I heard the other night that the only newspapers which are sold on 'Virgin Trains' are the ones which supported 'Remain'. One can always buy the 'Mail' at the railway station before boarding one of these trains !
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Jan 18 11.12pm

I heard the other night that the only newspapers which are sold on 'Virgin Trains' are the ones which supported 'Remain'.

One can always buy the 'Mail' at the railway station before boarding one of these trains !

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Stirlingsays 14 Jan 18 11.14pm
Virgin are a private company and they aren't a monopoly or even near monopoly so I guess if they can stock what newspapers they want. It isn't the same situation that is occurring in silicon valley where conservatives voices don't get careers. For Virgin to do this isn't a positive thing, they have become involved in politics in relation to being a train service. I would have thought that a service for taking people from A to B should be apolitical if anything but it's their choice.....it seems that every company feels the need to politicise everything. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

14 Jan 18 11.14pm

Virgin are a private company and they aren't a monopoly or even near monopoly so I guess if they can stock what newspapers they want.

It isn't the same situation that is occurring in silicon valley where conservatives voices don't get careers.

For Virgin to do this isn't a positive thing, they have become involved in politics in relation to being a train service.

I would have thought that a service for taking people from A to B should be apolitical if anything but it's their choice.....it seems that every company feels the need to politicise everything.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 15 Jan 18 1.00pm
Virgin Trains is to reverse its decision to stop selling the Daily Mail on its West Coast services. [Link]
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Beckenham 15 Jan 18 1.00pm