Apologies if I've missed an obvious thread on here.

In case it doesn't exist, I'd quite like this to be a centralised thread where the community can make suggestions and have some input into the kind of place we'd like HOL to be.

I would ask that mods don't simply delete this thread.

Whilst we do not own nor administer this community, we are part of it. Some of us would like to make it better. I feel like "General Talk" is the best place for this thread.

If you can think of ways to make it better, maybe jot something down here, as a "user suggestion"? Please keep it feasible and sensible!

Judging by recent history I don't think this thread will be available long. But I like your thinking very much and I also abhor the loss of any HOLer, including some whose views were very very far from my own.

I joined the HOL because it self-Polices. We all wade in when someone is being an eejit.

There is sometimes a problem with balance, where one view is put through so forcefully nobody else gets a look in and just gives up. There have also been problems with the monomaniacal posters in their many forms. They definitely need dealing with but IMO not 'got rid of'. Sanitisation is the last thing social media needs. Far better to have many many views, all listened to and taken seriously.

I would hope there may be a way back for recently departed friends and sparring partners.

Red and yellow cards have never been discussed on the boards and has been the policy for over 10 years. You can PM me if you want to know more and see if I can help.

Thanks for your offer of help PE.

I would really like this (among other aspects) to be discussed someplace by the userbase (of which, of course, you are also a member!) to see what their perspective is.

I don't think there should be "verboten" topics on here, personally, but perhaps that's a discussion for elsewhere ;-)

I also appreciate that this site is a private endeavour, and the Guntrisoft has the final say on how it is run. Dialogue with your users is good though.

Have to agree with you guys...the reds, flouncing, resignations that I've seen on here for the last few days simply denigrate the worth of a forum.

There's definitely been cause for concern with the arbitrary way some Mods simply wield the cards but clearly its a fine line at times.

Some of us dont help ourselves admittedly but above all the ability to 'challenge' thought, through debate, should be upheld for the good of the forum.

Without it, there's no freedom of thought or speech and it's pretty much a dictatorship.

Clearly there should be some guidelines, but those posted about sniping, personal attacks I think were and still are fine.

Debate the issue...nothing else

PS isnt it about time we were able to create 'polls' on posts like almost every other forum can nowadays?

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

Talk about over-reaction... This has happened loads on here over the near 20 years, it's nothing new! People get banned and others decide to flounce and stop posting... it's what happens on forums all over the internet. Flouncing is pretty pathetic to be honest!

Anyway, the website policy has ALWAYS been that cards are never discussed on the forum. Now some mischievous posters, who are friends of a banned poster, have decided to stir the pot and start these threads. They have been rightly deleted.

Now if anyone genuinely has a concern, then there is a 'contact us' and a private message function to discuss in private with the administrators. Funny how these people have chosen not to go down this route?