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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jan 18 4.28pm | |
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This really demonstrates the absurdity of pandering to tiny minds. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Jan 2018 4.49pm)
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orpingtoneagle Orpington 08 Jan 18 4.59pm | |
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Whose tiny minds? Those who see it as an issue? Those who thought this was a good idea in the first place? Those charming people who still refer to people with darker skin as 'monkeys,' and believe they have recently come down from a tree? Those people who have darker skin and get called monkeys by those who still view it as a socially acceptable thing to do and have to somehow accept it as 'banter'?
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Badger11 Beckenham 08 Jan 18 5.02pm | |
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I can't believe believe I am saying this but for once I agree with the people complaining. Its not in good taste. I assume it was a genuine mistake so as H&M have withdrawn it that should be the end of the matter.
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wordup 08 Jan 18 5.05pm | |
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Oh another race thread by fan of censorship of others views Hrolf. I would offer a view, but like half a dozen others today, I suspect anything I say however benign will immediately be deleted.
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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jan 18 5.09pm | |
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
Whose tiny minds? Those who see it as an issue? Those who thought this was a good idea in the first place? Those charming people who still refer to people with darker skin as 'monkeys,' and believe they have recently come down from a tree? Those people who have darker skin and get called monkeys by those who still view it as a socially acceptable thing to do and have to somehow accept it as 'banter'? Well I agree that the store could have seen it coming in the current climate but that doesn't change anything. I don't know anyone who thinks that insulting people is acceptable. I do know that people get insulted for with all sorts of stuff. Anything that can be used to antagonise them. That is the nature of insults. People need to get some maturity for god sake. Ask yourself where you draw the line?
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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jan 18 5.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I can't believe believe I am saying this but for once I agree with the people complaining. Its not in good taste. I assume it was a genuine mistake so as H&M have withdrawn it that should be the end of the matter. Good taste? This is an item of clothing for kids featuring the word monkey.
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elgrande bedford 08 Jan 18 5.21pm | |
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Very bad marketing,nothing wrong with the kids hoodie,just not thought out using the little black lad. I would be having severe words with the marketing department...heads will roll.
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Ray in Houston Houston 08 Jan 18 5.23pm | |
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H&M are in the business of making money by getting people to buy stuff from them; in the same way that the Premier League makes money by getting people to watch games (because TV companies will give them oodles of money based on the fact that advertisers will give them oodles of money for a 30-second slot during half time. If, accidentally or on purpose, they offend and alienate a slice of their potential customer base, it hurts their business. Something as tone deaf as this H&M commercial did just that so, in order to preserve its market share, the company apologized. This isn't censorship or political correctness run amok. This is just a business trying to maintain its appeal to as many people as possible so as to suck in as much of their spending money as possible. It's the free market in action in its purest form. Now, you (Hrolf) or anyone else has the right to withhold your business from H&M and to let them know exactly why you're doing so. H&M in turn will make a pure, commercial, business decision as to whether the loss of your custom - and that of like-minded individuals - outweighs the loss of custom they would have suffered without pulling the ad and issuing the apology. Conservatives love a good boycott. Go for it and see how many s***s H&M gives!
We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football. |
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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jan 18 5.31pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Very bad marketing,nothing wrong with the kids hoodie,just not thought out using the little black lad. I would be having severe words with the marketing department...heads will roll. They weren't 'using' him. He was most likely from an agency after being placed there by his parents.
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Ray in Houston Houston 08 Jan 18 5.32pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Good taste? This is an item of clothing for kids featuring the word monkey.
We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football. |
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Ray in Houston Houston 08 Jan 18 5.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
They weren't 'using' him. He was most likely from an agency after being placed there by his parents.
And before you challenge my bona fides on this, my wife used to model for clothing catalogues, so I know from her stories how these things go. The models are treated like props, rushed in / rushed out, and have no say or even clue about how those photos will be used ultimately. Once they're paid for allowing their image to be taken, that image is no longer theirs - it belongs to whoever paid them for it.
We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football. |
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Hrolf The Ganger 08 Jan 18 5.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
H&M are in the business of making money by getting people to buy stuff from them; in the same way that the Premier League makes money by getting people to watch games (because TV companies will give them oodles of money based on the fact that advertisers will give them oodles of money for a 30-second slot during half time. If, accidentally or on purpose, they offend and alienate a slice of their potential customer base, it hurts their business. Something as tone deaf as this H&M commercial did just that so, in order to preserve its market share, the company apologized. This isn't censorship or political correctness run amok. This is just a business trying to maintain its appeal to as many people as possible so as to suck in as much of their spending money as possible. It's the free market in action in its purest form. Now, you (Hrolf) or anyone else has the right to withhold your business from H&M and to let them know exactly why you're doing so. H&M in turn will make a pure, commercial, business decision as to whether the loss of your custom - and that of like-minded individuals - outweighs the loss of custom they would have suffered without pulling the ad and issuing the apology. Conservatives love a good boycott. Go for it and see how many s***s H&M gives! With this, I agree but it still relates to attitudes that prevail among the hard of thinking.
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