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sitdownstandup 26 Dec 17 3.52pm | |
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says former facebook executive. i know he might be a disgruntled former employee getting back at the company but some of the points he makes are accurate. I don't agree with everything he said as he never highlighted the good things that social media has done. He might have done in the longer version of the interview but... anyways what does the hol think about social media?
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eaglesmy1 slough 26 Dec 17 5.15pm | |
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In my opinion , I think in England there is a generation coming through where all anyone cares about is likes on instagram. Constantly buying things to impress people we don't like. I'm in the 18-30 age bracket now and I feel this is where the real problem lies , there's so much more to life than gym and selfies but that's all anyone really cares about because of the mess that is social media /reality tv on our screens. Looking up to people on love island / geordie shore it's crazy. Social media is a big player as all you'll ever see is the positives of what your 'friends' are up too and of course I do think relationships these days are affected because of it. Like I said I'm in the 18-30 Bracket but it's horrible to think what it must be like having everyone judge you at a finger tip in the age bracket below growing up. I actually live in New Zealand now and everyone over here throughout all ages has a different outlook on life than they do here and I think it's amazing positive all this materialistic mindset created in the uk isn't a thing . The uk society in general is in an absolute mess and as you asked I do think social media plays a huge part in that.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 26 Dec 17 6.26pm | |
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go onto netflix, find Black mirror, episode Nosedive.
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serial thriller The Promised Land 26 Dec 17 6.56pm | |
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I got rid of Facebook. If you think what it actually makes it's money on, it's advertising. For any marketing company, you are looking for every subtle way in which you can work your way in to people's psyches. When you're facebook, and have a similar financial input to a small country, you can do that to the max. We know that they can track your cookies in websites which have an inbuilt Facebook widget, but mmost people don't know they can also track most purchases you make on your card. They know you incredibly well, and can target you with ads as such. And of course multiple studies show that people say they are happier who don't use social media than who do. So just kick back and enjoy life without trying to impress people
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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Dec 17 3.39pm | |
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I don't think you can blame social media. People are just being exposed as the stupid, narcissistic, ego driven self obsessed, ignorant idiots that they often are. No one is entirely innocent.
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wordup 27 Dec 17 3.54pm | |
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Facebook creates a comforting environment presenting people with content that matches their outlook on life. There is little pushback, and where that is the case people typically become a more extreme example of what they already are. Group polarisation. A fair few people have essentially become detached from society as a whole as a result of social media. Which is quite ironic. Edited by wordup (27 Dec 2017 3.55pm)
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Mr Palaceman 27 Dec 17 4.29pm | |
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This is the only social media I do. Before Google took hold, they were a lot more open about the primary aim of it and that was to create a database of every person on the planet. They were open about it. They then they sold it to people who had the knowledge and finance to make it happen. This would be achieved by getting everyone, everywhere online. Even places were there was no access would get free internet, under the guise of education, trade and entertainment. Facebook came along, with a much more direct approach. Anyone who thinks that these and other similar platforms are primarily tools to enhance our lives and make life easier for us is mistaken. Their aim is to distract you and disrupt your way of thinking, in order to sell and to influence individual thinking to a common agenda. In other words to make you pliable and less able to resist your inner desires, so that those desires can be exploited. And it works a treat. Even on those that know about it because it's foundation has been based on nearly a century of studies into mass psychology.
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wordup 27 Dec 17 4.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Mr Palaceman
This is the only social media I do. Before Google took hold, they were a lot more open about the primary aim of it and that was to create a database of every person on the planet. They were open about it. They then they sold it to people who had the knowledge and finance to make it happen. This would be achieved by getting everyone, everywhere online. Even places were there was no access would get free internet, under the guise of education, trade and entertainment. Facebook came along, with a much more direct approach. Anyone who thinks that these and other similar platforms are primarily tools to enhance our lives and make life easier for us is mistaken. Their aim is to distract you and disrupt your way of thinking, in order to sell and to influence individual thinking to a common agenda. In other words to make you pliable and less able to resist your inner desires, so that those desires can be exploited. And it works a treat. Even on those that know about it because it's foundation has been based on nearly a century of studies into mass psychology. Pretty much. Social media is certainly changing the way people behave and perceive the world, which is of concern. I think we all must have examples of people who were a bit 'out there' or problematic previous to social media, who have now been tipped totally over the edge in part due to it. It feeds people what they want, which isn't always what's good for them.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 27 Dec 17 5.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Mr Palaceman
This is the only social media I do. Before Google took hold, they were a lot more open about the primary aim of it and that was to create a database of every person on the planet. They were open about it. They then they sold it to people who had the knowledge and finance to make it happen. This would be achieved by getting everyone, everywhere online. Even places were there was no access would get free internet, under the guise of education, trade and entertainment. Facebook came along, with a much more direct approach. Anyone who thinks that these and other similar platforms are primarily tools to enhance our lives and make life easier for us is mistaken. Their aim is to distract you and disrupt your way of thinking, in order to sell and to influence individual thinking to a common agenda. In other words to make you pliable and less able to resist your inner desires, so that those desires can be exploited. And it works a treat. Even on those that know about it because it's foundation has been based on nearly a century of studies into mass psychology. Well it does depend on how you use it, but I pretty much agree with this. Facebook is a useful tool for sharing information, but that works on many different levels, from staying in contact with friends, to accumulating data from individuals to manipulating people through information. Like any technology, its multifaceted based on what you want from it. But fundamentally, for Facebook to work, and succeed, it has to be able to sell you stuff, or sell your information.
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wordup 27 Dec 17 5.27pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Well it does depend on how you use it, but I pretty much agree with this. Facebook is a useful tool for sharing information, but that works on many different levels, from staying in contact with friends, to accumulating data from individuals to manipulating people through information. Like any technology, its multifaceted based on what you want from it. But fundamentally, for Facebook to work, and succeed, it has to be able to sell you stuff, or sell your information. The old 'if it's free, you're the product'
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PalazioVecchio south pole 27 Dec 17 6.48pm | |
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all over the world pubs, nightclubs, societies, clubs, friends groups, political movements etc etc are all suffering a lack of people getting up off their rear end and participating in the flesh.
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martin2412 Living The Dream 27 Dec 17 7.01pm | |
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I just can't believe how peoples personalities change on Facebook. For example when someone posts a picture of one of their sprogs, and then you get a load of feckwits commenting how gorgeous it is, when everyone knows it's an ugly little barsteward. Or someone posts that they're having the time of their life with their partner at The Dog & Duck, hoping to get a reply. Who gives a toss. It's all so fake and cringeworthy.
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