There have been times where I have found you to be a frustrating poster, and other times when your posts contain an interesting detail or thought.

On balance, I'm not a huge fan of your posts, but I'm sure loads of people would say the same about mine. All good. That's life. Tally ho!

However, I am finding the endless to-and-fro of responses where people question your integrity, and you respond as you do, to be incredibly dull. Because of this, whenever I read through threads, I just look for large sections where your name is not mentioned. (Sorry -- please don't be offended, no offence meant, I'm just so used to seeing the ensuing mini storm of repetitive dirge).

That is not good for discussing the matters in question or, by extension, these forums. The bottom line is that, regardless of whether you deserve the abuse you get, the comments you make and the responses to them aren't proving good for discussion.

So I had a few polite thoughts for you:

have you considered

1) simply not making reference to the large group of contacts you say you know in the game? For whatever reason, this in particular seems to grate on people and can eat up 4 screens with off-topic, indiluted tedium where you are defending yourself.

2) reviewing the specifics of what has irked people over a multiple ``let's not turn this into another willo thread'' and considering what you could have done differently to avoid the friction? It is not reasonable to assume that it's everybody else, when you are the lightning rod.

3) starting your own permanent thread -- maybe something like Willo Wonders. Naturally, a quid pro quo would be that you post much less frequently in other threads, but nothing would stop you commenting on those threads in your own one (if the moderators allowed such a thing).

Some people will read Willo Wonders and love it, the doubters will /should ignore it you in peace. Everyone's a winner.

Regardless, I think that you need to look at the fact you are, for whatever reason, the common denominator for a lot of off-topic posts. Are you asking yourself what you could change to stop that happening?

GP Wig Esq.

PS: Whatever people think of Willo, can I humbly suggest not piling into this thread in a way that pushes him into a defensive mode as it would be lovely to sort this.

Edited by Ginger Pubic Wig (22 Dec 2017 10.48am)

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

Don't understand this Willo obsession thing on here.
Even gets a thread in his name.

Why are so many obsessed with this poster?

I have asked myself this same question.

At the end of the day I am just a mere supporter (Since the 60s) who decided to register on HOL to engage in debate and discussion with fellow supporters, that's all.

I really don't consider myself as any 'Superior being' on here and I reiterate that I bow down to all those who are far more cerebrally blessed than I am and who had far more value to HOL than I do.

At the end of the day I am just a 'Pleb' on here with NO ego whatsoever and if the tone of my posts suggests otherwise then it is certainly not by design.

I can assure you I always seek to argue my case free from personal slurs and never seek to cause any offence.If I have offended anyone this has not been intentional and I apologise without any reservation.I really am very sorry if this is the case.

In terms of de-railing threads, this only occurs when I have to 'Fight my corner' in the wake of unwarranted and ridiculous criticisms but I recognise this hence my vehemient pleas to get the debate back on track - Seemingly the "Let's NOT turn this into a Willo thread" attracts brickbats but I post this with the best of intentions and in the interests of HOL.

It really would appear that there are some, perhaps many who would dearly wish that I cease posting on HOL and sometimes I DO wonder if I have outstayed my welcome.I have given thought to this and perhaps over the coming days will finally decide that the curtain should come down.It will not be a 'Flounce' but a considered decision - I will not make any formal announcement but it will be apparent that my time is over.

Finally I wish ALL of you and your families a very Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous New Year.Take care.

You will be glad to hear that this is my final post on this thread !

Edited by Willo (22 Dec 2017 11.42am)

Well you know it IS a message board. If you simply don't like a post or a discussion, skip down to to the bottom of the thread and click the next page number, simple.

Willo please stay. Us holmesdale conservatives need you.

As I said, that's exactly what I do.

It's the amount of times that threads get derailed that needs to stop. It's ultimately bad for this site.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

so you make a post all about Willo when you want posts to stop being about him?

give it a rest, and stop the unneeded bullying.

PALACE TILL I DIE!!!